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Last week: Some really interesting discussions on (among other things) Caesar Augustus, the temple in Egypt, and the destruction of the temple (in Jerusalem) as divine punishment and also free will.

This week: More Herod! Definitely went quite a bit faster than last week! Featuring lots and lots of family drama... the kind that includes a ton of bloodshed. I'll talk more about it in comments.

Next week: [personal profile] selenak can you give us a halfway point for Book 2? It looks a bit shorter but I'm also going to be crunched for time next week (and definitely won't be able to post until Sunday) so half a book is what it's going to have to be!

Date: 2026-02-23 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cenozoicsynapsid
One thing that struck me was just how much money Herod can throw around. His income seems to be on the order of a few thousand talents a year--- enough to bankroll his son with 300 talents to buy political patronage in Rome, bribe invading armies about the same amount to go away, build extensively and finance his own lavish lifestyle.

A talent is 6000 denarii, and a denarius (as the parable of the vineyard from the NT reminds us) is a generous day's wage for a laborer or soldier. So one talent is enough to pay a Roman legion-sized military unit (~4500 men) for one day in the field, not counting the extras required for officers, NCOs, and whatever supplies the men don't pay for themselves. Paying such a unit 300 talents to go away seems vaguely reasonable, as that amount could replace a year's worth of wages. Of course they'd all make much more if they got to sack something, but that also involves the possibility of being killed.

As far as I can tell, Herod makes almost all this money from taxes. The balsam trees at Ein Gedi are mentioned as an export item, but when Cleopatra steals them, Herod is able to rent them back for 200 talents yearly, so they can't bring in much more than that. And I don't think Judea has many more export goods, unlike Egypt which is a famous breadbasket.

This makes some sense with the NT's preoccupation with taxes and tax collectors. I had assumed that this was based on post-Herodian Roman tax collection--- Roman taxes were collected by private contractors who had no set tax rate, but bid on the tax concession for a province and then extracted as much as they could get, so they were understandably unpopular. But Herod seems to have been pretty extortionate himself. (And although the text doesn't say so, there would've been temple taxes as well, I think.)

But you can definitely see Herod's policies working out for him, as he seems to get several privileges that other Roman client kings don't necessarily get. (Such as permission to execute his family members, sadly.) Throwing around all this money seems to let him play both sides: He can appear as a powerful and civilized Hellenic king, while also doing enough for the temple and the Jews that they only seem to begrudge him his Hellenism once during the chapter, in that incident with the eagle statue. Considering what the next several Roman emperors (Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius, Nero) are going to do to their own family members, Herod is actually not doing as horribly as all that. Or rather, the bar is really, really low.

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