I dipped in and out of the Tillerman books this past month, mostly reading Seventeen Against the Dealer but also looking at bits of the others.
-Seventeen is actually a lot more affirming and lovely when, well, when you skip all the parts about Dicey's annoying boat business, which I did this time around (sorry, Dicey, I'm not saying you and boats are annoying at all! But all the people you dealt with in the course of doing business were very annoying!) and concentrate on all the parts with the Tillermans and their friends. Well, I mean -- it's still a book that concerns itself with the theme of failure, so that can by necessity be depressing, but it's also about how to figure out what to do with failure and what's worth it to figure out how to succeed at (and there are important successes as well), which is lovely.
-And also Cisco, while not a great human being AT ALL is actually pretty fascinating to read about, especially knowing who he is, omg. There's a bit where he says, if Dicey had been a boy, he'd have invited her to see the world with him, and Dicey thinks it's a cool idea, too. What if he'd met Sammy instead of Dicey? Okay, Sammy would have punched him :P
-Also: Maybeth thinks in BOXES. She thinks the farm is a BOX. Which until this reread I did not even connect with Bullet thinking the farm was a box in The Runner!! Only for Bullet, the boxes are traps, and for Maybeth, what she means by the farm being a box is all good things. THESE BOOKS, OMG.
-There is a whole background subplot in Seventeen with Phil Milson, Jeff's friend, that I only very vaguely remembered, in large part because the book is from Dicey's POV so she doesn't notice it a whole lot herself, but it's clearly going on in the background -- Phil falls in love with Maybeth in the beginning of Seventeen, they go out sometimes on Saturday night, but by the end of the book Sammy is worried about Maybeth because she's not going out on Saturday night because she's waiting for Phil to call her and he's not. I cross-referenced with Solitary Blue, and Phil comes across as... umm... how shall I put this... Jeff likes him, and he's clearly a good friend to Jeff, but some of the things he says display attitudes towards women that might be then!mainstream but which I'm not sure I'd want a gentle and non-academically-oriented kinswoman to be involved with. That is to say, if you ask me, I don't think Phil would have been as bad as Verricker, but I think (and I think this is intended) Maybeth honestly had something of an escape that he doesn't call anymore, and her life is better off without him, married or not.
(But, of course, people grow up, and we don't see much of Phil in Seventeen, so it's possible that Seventeen!Phil isn't the same as Blue!Phil. Who knows.)
-I think there's a way in which Seventeen is in some ways the closest to being Maybeth's book (she is the only one who has a real triumph, with her history test, but also the Phil disappointment, but also Dicey realizing how good she is at taking care of Gram, how good she is at people) but it's sort of disguised by everything being from Dicey's POV, and so her concerns taking center stage. Subtle, like Maybeth herself.
-Seventeen is actually a lot more affirming and lovely when, well, when you skip all the parts about Dicey's annoying boat business, which I did this time around (sorry, Dicey, I'm not saying you and boats are annoying at all! But all the people you dealt with in the course of doing business were very annoying!) and concentrate on all the parts with the Tillermans and their friends. Well, I mean -- it's still a book that concerns itself with the theme of failure, so that can by necessity be depressing, but it's also about how to figure out what to do with failure and what's worth it to figure out how to succeed at (and there are important successes as well), which is lovely.
-And also Cisco, while not a great human being AT ALL is actually pretty fascinating to read about, especially knowing who he is, omg. There's a bit where he says, if Dicey had been a boy, he'd have invited her to see the world with him, and Dicey thinks it's a cool idea, too. What if he'd met Sammy instead of Dicey? Okay, Sammy would have punched him :P
-Also: Maybeth thinks in BOXES. She thinks the farm is a BOX. Which until this reread I did not even connect with Bullet thinking the farm was a box in The Runner!! Only for Bullet, the boxes are traps, and for Maybeth, what she means by the farm being a box is all good things. THESE BOOKS, OMG.
-There is a whole background subplot in Seventeen with Phil Milson, Jeff's friend, that I only very vaguely remembered, in large part because the book is from Dicey's POV so she doesn't notice it a whole lot herself, but it's clearly going on in the background -- Phil falls in love with Maybeth in the beginning of Seventeen, they go out sometimes on Saturday night, but by the end of the book Sammy is worried about Maybeth because she's not going out on Saturday night because she's waiting for Phil to call her and he's not. I cross-referenced with Solitary Blue, and Phil comes across as... umm... how shall I put this... Jeff likes him, and he's clearly a good friend to Jeff, but some of the things he says display attitudes towards women that might be then!mainstream but which I'm not sure I'd want a gentle and non-academically-oriented kinswoman to be involved with. That is to say, if you ask me, I don't think Phil would have been as bad as Verricker, but I think (and I think this is intended) Maybeth honestly had something of an escape that he doesn't call anymore, and her life is better off without him, married or not.
(But, of course, people grow up, and we don't see much of Phil in Seventeen, so it's possible that Seventeen!Phil isn't the same as Blue!Phil. Who knows.)
-I think there's a way in which Seventeen is in some ways the closest to being Maybeth's book (she is the only one who has a real triumph, with her history test, but also the Phil disappointment, but also Dicey realizing how good she is at taking care of Gram, how good she is at people) but it's sort of disguised by everything being from Dicey's POV, and so her concerns taking center stage. Subtle, like Maybeth herself.