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January 18th: Blessed be thou to me! Under your light, my Prince Heinrich was born!
January 18th: Blessed be thou to me! Under your light, my Prince Heinrich was born!
Louis XI,le pouvoir fracassé
Date: 2022-08-23 05:14 am (UTC)Readers of Sarah Gristwood's Game of Queens may recall me as the opening major character and the one who mentors Margaret of Austria and Louise de Savoy both.
Oh right!! Thank you for the callback!
Person: *is revealed to be the other prisoner in a cage*
WELP WELL THEN.
Anne: You're scum, and if you dare to make for a power grab one more time, I'll crush you. On your knees, everyone.
Everyone, including, at last, Louis d'Orleans: *kneels*
Anne: I'm off to become the best Regent France will ever have
haha, it's like you know that this is the best way to get me to watch this movie...
Louis XI: My favourite daughter...
Jeanne: *suffers*
Louis XI:....is France. Always France.
Anne: I understand, Dad.
Also, this was an amazing payoff for all those Jeanne: *suffers* lines and I am both laughing and, as usual, in awe of you :D
Re: Louis XI,le pouvoir fracassé
Date: 2022-08-23 08:15 am (UTC)Seriously, though. When Jeanne and Anne's brother Charles died without leaving a male heir behind and thus Louis d'Orleans did become King, he immediately sued for annulment of his marriage in order to marry Charles' widow instead. Now, the usual pretense for annulment suits and the easiest to use in this case would have been consanguinity, since Louis and Jeanne were, in fact, cousins. But no. Louis' arguments were two fold - first, being forced into the marriage against his will by Louis XI (but since he couldn't prove he had been younger than 14 at the time (there's dispute about his exact age), that would have been at least questionable by contemporary law), secondly, that he couldn't consumate his marriage because Jeanne was such a cripple that it was anatomically impossible. At which point Jeanne stopped suffering in silence and like Catherine of Aragon years later, said "No way". And provided witnesses towards whom Louis back in the day had bragged about consumating the marriage when it happened, in addition to her own word. Unfortunately, the Pope at the time was Alexander VI, Rodrigo Borgia, who had a vested interest in deciding in Louis' favor, because in return, Louis a) gave a younger relation of his, Charlotte d'Albret, to Cesare Borgia in marriage, meaning the Borgias had just married into the French Royal family, and b) made Cesare the Duc de Valentinois, meaning Cesare now had a dukedom and a title that was independent from his father being Pope and would thus still be his after his father's death. Rodrigo Borgia being a firm believer in "Family first", that was that for poor Jeanne.
Henry VIII: How come I didn't get such a deal?
Pope Clement (aka Giulio de' Medici): Did you offer one of your relations to marry my maybe son but definitely relation Alessandro? No, but Charles V did by offering his daughter Margaret. Also, Charles' troops were in Italy and had just sacked Rome. And Charles was Catherine's nephew. I bet if Jeanne had had Charles as a nephew, Rodrigo wouldn't have granted Louis an annulment, either.
Jeanne got at least the Duchy of Berry after her annulment, founded a new order and became a saint (literally, though her canonization only happened in 1950 (!)). Louis didn't get a son out of his second marriage, either, and when he married a third time (by then old), Mary Tudor the sister of Henry VIII, he didn't survive it long which gave rise to all the obvious jokes about sexing yourself to the grave. Incidentally, if you get around to watching the Maximilian two parter, Louis XI is the main bad guy in it and we see all three of his children - Anne, Jeanne and Charles - as young characters as well (Charles is young and dumb, Anne is the smart one, Jeanne is crippled and abused). Future Louis XII, Louis d'Orleans, otoh, does not show up.
Re: Louis XI,le pouvoir fracassé
Date: 2022-08-26 05:42 am (UTC)Oof! Poor Jeanne indeed.
I am planning to watch Maximilian! Eventually! I have to at least finish this TV show first... :D
Re: Louis XI,le pouvoir fracassé
Date: 2022-08-26 12:12 pm (UTC)Lol, look at you and your complex emotions and declarations of loyalty. Meanwhile, me: "Wait, he tricked his nobles into killing someone he tricked into wearing his clothes, and he gets to gloat afterwards? BE STILL MY HEART."
stupid stroke:D
Re: Louis XI,le pouvoir fracassé
Date: 2022-08-27 04:15 pm (UTC)Re: Louis XI,le pouvoir fracassé
Date: 2022-09-04 02:38 pm (UTC)Thanks to your summary. Without your summary, I think I would have made it about 5 minutes in before wandering off. So thank you!
I enjoyed his chessmastering! I chuckled when he caressed the spider and admired its web. I loved the dialogue, especially with the Archbishop. Anne was great! I loved Louis taking her off for secret lessons in ruling. And when he said they were cut from the same cloth and that he trusted her...I think that was my favorite scene.
Having watched that, I determined that I needed to check out a bio. So I went looking for the Paul Murray Kendall one you mentioned, Selena. Only to find that it's not on Kindle in English, only French. Normally I would order the English hard copy and digitize it...but I don't know which address to send it to.
So naturally I decided the time has come to learn French. :D
It would be great if I could get my French up to approximately where my German is now. It would be so useful for salon!
Re: Louis XI,le pouvoir fracassé
Date: 2022-09-05 10:54 am (UTC)Re: Louis XI,le pouvoir fracassé
Date: 2022-09-05 11:01 am (UTC)Council: *trembles*
Louis XI: Tell me what you admire most about me.
Council: *sweats, praises Louis*
Louis XI: Trust you guys to leave out the most important thing. I consolidated France from an assembly of fiefdoms into something resembling a modern state and crushed all my enemies. Now, I'm expecting you all to supper, and you can think about which of your territories you'll hand over first to the crown to put me in a good mood.
??
I ask you. :D
This will have consequences...
It has already had consequences, namely the studying of French! But I look forward to these other consequences (though I cannot tell whether you propose to write fic about Louis XI or to rec more movies).
Re: Louis XI,le pouvoir fracassé
Date: 2022-09-09 04:46 am (UTC)I have sadly totally fallen off the bandwagon with my French. But at least I shall yell at you if necessary! It's not necessary, right??
Re: Louis XI,le pouvoir fracassé
Date: 2022-09-14 06:35 pm (UTC)I know, right? Being me, of course, I had to watch it in several 15-20 minute installments spaced out over the course of a week. But I watched it!
It's not necessary, right??
Nope! But it would have been that day if I hadn't asked you to yell at me. Even better, because my wife and I swapped roles in the big move yesterday, I had most of the morning free, and I got some French and German done. So I'm on a streak. \o/
Keep yelling at me if I break my streak!