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aaaaaand it's time for a new discussion post! :D (you guys are so fast!)

Re: Suhm about Fritz (?)

Date: 2021-02-20 03:26 pm (UTC)
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Oh, I was mostly talking about 1736.

Ahh, okay, yes, that makes sense. Yes, I love that too.

was trying his very best to get Fritz' on board with Wolff and his metaphysics and shape him into a "Philosopher King" as imagined by Wolff - and then Fritz turns around and not only chooses Suhm for all his Wolff needs, he also starts writing to Voltaire, who promptly pokes holes into Wolff.

Yesss. It's quite fun watching Fritz initially rave about Wolff to Suhm, and then turn up more and more objections.

To cite Asprey (who is good at making me laugh with his witticisms, if nothing else):

When Frederick at Ruppin received from Suhm the first chapter of the Métaphysique, in which Wolff demonstrates how man can be certain that he exists and has a soul, he wrote gratefully, “You have convinced me that I indubitably exist."

Leopold von Ranke marked this period of conversion as beatific, and he may have been right. The discovery of one's soul does not occur every day, and it is certainly exciting to learn that one is immortal.


By the way, author of Expensive Source also wrote a book called "Der Kampf um Kronprinz Friedrich. Wolff gegen Voltaire", so you see where he is going with this.

I am not buying books at present (*sad panda*), but this one can be obtained for less than $20, so much more appealing on that count.

Manteuffel was key in bringing August II. and FW together and was involved in the founding of the "Societé des Anti-sobres", which the two of them started in Dresden in 1728 (other members: Seckendorff and Grumbkow). Okay then!

His involvement rings a bell, but I had forgotten that. Okay then, indeed!

[personal profile] cahn: FW and August the Strong founded a society, consisting of them and their closest cohorts, for combating sobriety. Chief duties were drinking a lot, and gifting each other alcohol and drinking vessels.

Re: Suhm about Fritz (?)

Date: 2021-02-20 05:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard
Well, you know, that is what I was thinking. :P

And speaking of needing to up our games, I need to up my currently terrible German reading game for a number of reasons. I've actually gotten to the point where I *can* read most of the texts that I would need to read for our salon! Like the Strasbourg write-ups, or Expensive Source on Manteuffel, etc. The problem is that I read so slowly that it's not feasible. But despite the fact that I have a very limited vocab that I badly need to broaden, that's not the current impediment. Current impediment is speed.

Well, with luck, I can resume studying German soon and get my reading speed up...to speed. :P

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