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Aug. 31st, 2020 08:23 pmPeople who know more history, more Schiller/Verdi, and more about AO3 tagging than I do (*cough* ![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
selenak, zdenka, and others??), I need your help!
The wonderfulisis is wrangling Don Carlo(s), and because I am very loud about Don Carlo(s) asked me the following:
(1) whether the opera Don Carlos characters and the play Don Carlos characters should be shared
I say yes to this; I am pretty confident about this one. It's like sharing characters between Les Misérables the book and musical -- sure, there are differences, but they're mostly meant to be the same.
(2) whether the opera/play characters should be shared with their historical counterparts (Carlos de Austria, Felipe II de España | Philip II of Spain, Élisabeth de France, etc.)
This I'm not so sure about and was wondering what you guys thought? My inclination is to say they should be, as I think Schiller/Verdi were at least... kind of... trying to have characters who were resembling the historical ones. But on the other hand, for example, Carlos in the play/opera doesn't resemble historical Carlos really very much at all (except in certain opera productions, I guess). I think it's more like Hamilton (where it shares the historical tags) than like Reign (where the characters are sufficiently unlike their historical counterparts that they are tagged specific to that show) but... maybe you guys have stronger opinions?
Also,isis pointed out that opera fans wouldn't necessarily recognize the dropdown. On one hand, I'd figure out who Élisabeth de France was pretty quickly, but, yeah, I'd definitely have a moment of "who are these people and why are they showing up??"
(3) What about all those French and Italian pipes?
She suggested adding disambiguating subtags with French for opera, and German for Schiller? and subtag to the historical character? This would probably be the most transparent for people in the opera/play fandom!
isis says she can answer wrangling questions but can't go counter to policy, thank you!! All hail to the tag wranglers, this seems much more complicated than I would have thought, knowing nothing of tag wrangling :P
(Also, thank you tomildred_of_midgard, who got tired of my procrastinatory ways and sent in the support ticket for "Ridrigue," which is probably what kicked this whole thing off :) )
selenak, zdenka, and others??), I need your help!The wonderful
isis is wrangling Don Carlo(s), and (1) whether the opera Don Carlos characters and the play Don Carlos characters should be shared
I say yes to this; I am pretty confident about this one. It's like sharing characters between Les Misérables the book and musical -- sure, there are differences, but they're mostly meant to be the same.
(2) whether the opera/play characters should be shared with their historical counterparts (Carlos de Austria, Felipe II de España | Philip II of Spain, Élisabeth de France, etc.)
This I'm not so sure about and was wondering what you guys thought? My inclination is to say they should be, as I think Schiller/Verdi were at least... kind of... trying to have characters who were resembling the historical ones. But on the other hand, for example, Carlos in the play/opera doesn't resemble historical Carlos really very much at all (except in certain opera productions, I guess). I think it's more like Hamilton (where it shares the historical tags) than like Reign (where the characters are sufficiently unlike their historical counterparts that they are tagged specific to that show) but... maybe you guys have stronger opinions?
Also,
isis pointed out that opera fans wouldn't necessarily recognize the dropdown. On one hand, I'd figure out who Élisabeth de France was pretty quickly, but, yeah, I'd definitely have a moment of "who are these people and why are they showing up??"(3) What about all those French and Italian pipes?
She suggested adding disambiguating subtags with French for opera, and German for Schiller? and subtag to the historical character? This would probably be the most transparent for people in the opera/play fandom!
isis says she can answer wrangling questions but can't go counter to policy, thank you!! All hail to the tag wranglers, this seems much more complicated than I would have thought, knowing nothing of tag wrangling :P(Also, thank you to
mildred_of_midgard, who got tired of my procrastinatory ways and sent in the support ticket for "Ridrigue," which is probably what kicked this whole thing off :) )
