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And including Emperor Joseph II!

from Derek Beales: Joseph II, Volume 2: Against the World, 1780 - 1790:

Joseph's alleged comment to Mozart about the Entführung, "Too many notes", has been taken as evidence of his ignorance. But he probably said something like, "Too beautiful for our ears, and monstrous many notes." It is always necessary to bear in mind, when appraising the emperor's remarks, his peculiar brand of humor or sarcasm. He was usually getting at someone. And he did not use the royal "we". The ears in question were those of the Viennese audience, whom he was mocking for their limited appreciation of Mozart's elaborate music.

(though not gonna lie, I think it is a LOT of notes)

Re: Klement: the Weber Version - I

Date: 2022-02-03 02:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard
is Philippine Mrs. Wartensleben or are we talking about one of the Schwedt wives?

The latter, apparently, but I can't easily find which one, and like you, I have no time. (I am now again waiting on a script to finish running before I can resume work.)

ETA: I can't find a wife named Philippine or Philippe, but the late Margrave at this date was Philip. Wilhelmine calls his wife the "margravine Philippe" or "margravine Philippine" (depending on your translation, I really don't have time to check out the French). Is it possible that she and Weber are doing the equivalent of "the Princess Heinrich"? I.e. it's actually Philip's widow Johanna Charlotte?

ETA: also, check out how much of the files on Klement from the Secret Prussian State Archive survive! Wow. Lots of material still there.

Wow, yes! And those would have been closed to Weber, right? Only special people, like Preuss, got access?
Edited Date: 2022-02-03 02:53 am (UTC)

Re: Klement: the Weber Version - I

Date: 2022-02-03 08:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] selenak
Yes, that's correct. He's using the Saxon archive, but not the Prussian one.

Is it possible that she and Weber are doing the equivalent of "the Princess Heinrich"?

By Jove, I think you've got it. Yes, that makes sense.

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