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cahnUnfortunately, there was then at Berlin a King who pursued one policy only, who deceived his enemies, but not his servants, and who lied without scruple, but never without necessity.
(from The King's Secret - by Duke de Broglie, grand-nephew of the subject of the book, Comte de Broglie, and grandfather of the physicist) )
(from The King's Secret - by Duke de Broglie, grand-nephew of the subject of the book, Comte de Broglie, and grandfather of the physicist) )
Re: FS in three biographies: An Overview (2)
Date: 2023-08-18 05:09 am (UTC)Okay, I didn't think you could get me to laugh at infant mortality, but... you got me to laugh at infant mortality :P :D
But seriously, huh, Lorraine Leopold eventually succeeded, didn't he?! Too bad he was dead and couldn't enjoy it, I guess.
Now, my three biographers: did FS trade army supplies in the Seventh Years War to the Prussians?
Fred Hennings: For sure, and here is the Fritz quote from that historical masterpiece "The History of the Seven Years War" by Fritz to prove it.
Georg Schreiber: He didn't. That Fritz is the only source of that story ought to tell you something.
Renate Zedinger: What Georg Schreiber said. I add that there's another Fritz quote from actually during the war where he complains that FS buying supplies for the Austrian side got the prices up!
WELL THEN.
FS should to the official proposing - i.e. FS should propose, in Fritz' name, to EC.
WHAT. This is GREAT
FW: I don't see the downside of insulting G2, but fine, have it your way.
HAHAHAHA
EC: Nobody ever asked me, but looking back, I think I would have enjoyed having FS propose to me for Fritz.
Aw EC <3 Salon would have enjoyed it too!
so FS suggested doing it himself, and did, with aplomb.
:D FS!
Re: FS in three biographies: An Overview (2)
Date: 2023-08-18 09:55 am (UTC)He did. He was like SD with her English marriage project about this. We have the first SD letter mentioning a Wilhelmine/Fritz of Wales match when Wilhelmine is all of six months old, and that's how Lorraine Leopold was about getting his boys matched to Austrian archduchesses practically as soon as one was born. Of course, SD had a more firm reason to believe this would make Wilhelmine King of England than Leopold had reason to believe this would make a son of his really truly HRE - for one thing, MT's Dad and her mother were young when Lorraine Leopold started with this obsession, they always could have produced a living son in the next decade or so, in which case FS would have gotten a wife with a good dowry and high social status, but nothing more than that - and yet his gamble paid off, wheraes SD's would have failed even if Wilhelmine had married the guy. (Given Fritz of Wales died before G2.) She'd never have been Queen of England.
WELL THEN.
I'm really curious as to what Mildred will say, because she's read books claiming FS did make the sales with their respective sources quite recently. I mean, Schreiber and Renate Z. come across as thorough in their research, but Renate Z. also believes Fritz wanted to become HRE at one point simply based on a supposed Wilhelmine quote from 1743 when Mildred presented us with several Fritz quotes to the contrary, so it's not like they are infallible. But it's worth noting both of them did not find any source for the "FS sold supplies to the Prussians" claim other than Fritz.
WHAT. This is GREAT
My thoughts precisely. :)
Re: FS in three biographies: An Overview (2)
Date: 2023-09-05 12:50 pm (UTC)Well, "books" = Hennings, which you have also read. And he cites Vehse, and Vehse does not cite anyone, so that's the sum total of my non-Fritzian evidence. It does not inspire confidence. (Vehse does not appear to be another Koser or Volz, unless I'm missing the volume where he cites his sources.)