cahn | Historical Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 42

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Last post, we had (among other things) Danish kings and their favorites; Louis XIV and Philippe d'Orléans; reviews of a very shippy book about Katte, a bad Jacobite novel, and a great book about clothing; a fic about Émilie du Châtelet and Voltaire; and a review of a set of entertaining Youtube history videos about Frederick the Great.

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From:

cahn

Ha! That spy system stuff was interesting to read about!

Also I totally laughed at James Keith showing up everywhere!! Poor all-the-other-Keiths.

(Also, btw, I will be out of town and/or have family visiting for the next couple of weeks, and then after that will have some work deadlines, so my salon presence may be even more spotty than usual. I will be reading, and I will come back!! It just might be... in a while before I can comment more than rather sporadically.)

From:

mildred_of_midgard

That spy system stuff was interesting to read about!

Did you notice Springer, who was condemned to life imprisonment, escaped not once but twice? The Swedes apparently cannot keep a prisoner to save their lives. :P

Good luck with r/l!

From:

selenak

Andronikos Komnenos the trope changer from "rogue" to Supervillain: Pfff. I escaped from more and harder situations.

Justinian II: Fuck yeah! So did I! And with a slit nose! Reveeeeeeenge, here I come!

Prussian Trenck: And what about me? Granted, I escaped only once and the other times I tried I didn't succeed, but that's still one more time than my sovereign managed, and I had way harsher conditions to escape from!

From:

mildred_of_midgard

I was thinking of Trenck! And I had the same thought, which is that he only escaped once out of several tries.

that's still one more time than my sovereign managed

Ouch! But it supports my point that the Prussians in general can keep prisoners better than the Swedes, based on our sample size of 2. ;)

(Patkul: *sob*)

From:

selenak

I guess both Trenck (the first time around) and Springer benefited from not being intended for execution, as opposed to poor Patkul. Also, both FW and Charles VII are more frightening that whoever ruled Sweden in Springer's time (was that Ulrike's husband?).

From:

mildred_of_midgard

Looks like Springer's escape was in 1747 and Ulrike's husband Adolf Fredrik didn't become king until 1751, so this would be Fredrik I, originally of Hesse-Kessel and brother-in-law to Karl XII. (We've spent so long in salon and covered so many Fredericks and Charleses that I'm having to diversify the spellings as much as possible.)