18th-Century Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 38

[cahn]

Gonna go ahead and make this post even though Yuletide is coming...

But in the meantime, there has been some fic in the fandom posted!

Holding His Space (2503 words) by felisnocturna
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: 18th Century CE RPF, 18th Century CE Frederician RPF
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Relationships: Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf/Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
Characters: Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf, Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
Additional Tags: Protectiveness, Domestic, Character Study
Summary:

Five times Fredersdorf has to stay behind - and one time Friedrich doesn't leave.

Using People (3392 words) by prinzsorgenfrei
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: 18th Century CE RPF
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Hans Hermann von Katte
Characters: Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great, Hans Hermann von Katte
Additional Tags: Fluff, Idiots in Love, reading plays aloud while gazing into each others eyes
Summary:

Friedrich had started to talk to him because he had thought of him as a bit of a ditz.
And now here he was. Here he was months later, bundled up in this very same man’s blankets with a cup of hot coffee in front of him, its scent mixing with that of Katte’s French perfume.
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Fluffy One Shot about one traitorous Crown Prince and the sycophant he accidentally fell for.

Comments

Re: Changing ideas of conception and of women’s sexual pleasure

[mildred_of_midgard]

This is great, thank you!

the woman’s womb, skipping as it were for joy

Oh, wow. That is a heck of a mental image!

I have to say, the only time I've felt my womb skip, it wasn't for joy (menstrual cramps), and that's why I had it removed. :P

The most common sex manual, the weirdly titled Aristotle’s Masterpiece

Oh, wow, I have to know more.

Wikipedia:

It was first published in 1684 and written by an unknown author who falsely claimed to be Aristotle. As a consequence the author is now described as a Pseudo-Aristotle...The title of the work was possibly chosen because many people saw Aristotle as a sex expert in early modern England. Another popular pseudo-Aristotelian text which covered sex and reproduction, Aristotle's Problems (1595), was responsible for this reputation. The real Aristotle also wrote works about the reproduction of animals (such as History of Animals and Generation of Animals) and many people considered him an authority on scientific matters in general so “[a]ttributing the work to Aristotle [gave] it a claim to respectability, authority, and ancient pedigree."

Alrighty, then! Aristotle's masterpiece.

The rape thing did change, though.

Sort of! Apparently this view that if a woman conceives, it can't have been rape, is alive and well among lawmakers in Texas. *facepalm*

Re: Changing ideas of conception and of women’s sexual pleasure

[cahn]

It was first published in 1684 and written by an unknown author who falsely claimed to be Aristotle. As a consequence the author is now described as a Pseudo-Aristotle...The title of the work was possibly chosen because many people saw Aristotle as a sex expert in early modern England. Another popular pseudo-Aristotelian text which covered sex and reproduction, Aristotle's Problems (1595), was responsible for this reputation. The real Aristotle also wrote works about the reproduction of animals (such as History of Animals and Generation of Animals) and many people considered him an authority on scientific matters in general so “[a]ttributing the work to Aristotle [gave] it a claim to respectability, authority, and ancient pedigree."

Whoa! That's kind of crazy. I think it's particularly hilarious given what luzula said about Aristotle in her post!

Re: Changing ideas of conception and of women’s sexual pleasure

[luzula]

Glad you enjoyed! : D I stumbled on this essay while doing fic research on 18th century medicine and career paths for men becoming surgeons and physicians, and just had to share...

Sort of! Apparently this view that if a woman conceives, it can't have been rape, is alive and well among lawmakers in Texas. *facepalm*
OMG. Are they determined to pick the worst aspects of every century?

Re: Changing ideas of conception and of women’s sexual pleasure

[mildred_of_midgard]

Yes! Because if you believe a woman can't conceive if she was really raped, you can ban abortion and not make exceptions for rape. I haven't checked (and don't want to) to find out if they make the orgasm connection (or if 19th century prudery stops them), but ugh. Yes. Worst of every century.