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More Frederick the Great (henceforth "Fritz") and surrounding spinoffs history! Clearly my purpose in life is now revealed: it is to encourage [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard and [personal profile] selenak to talk to me about Frederick the Great and associated/tangential European history. I am having such a great time here! Collating some links in this post:

* selenak's post on Frederick the Great as a TV show with associated fandom; a great place to start for the general history

* I have given up indexing all posts, here is the tag of discussion posts. Someday when I actually have time maybe I'll do a "best of."


Some links that have come up in the course of this discussion (and which I am putting here partially for my own benefit because in particular I haven't had time to watch the movies because still mainlining Nirvana in Fire):
Fritz' sister Wilhelmine's tell-all tabloidy memoirs (English translation); this is Part I; the text options have been imperfectly OCR'd so be aware of that (NOTE 11-6-19: THIS IS A BOWDLERIZED TEXT, I WILL COME BACK WITH A BETTER LINK)
Part II of Wilhelmine's memoirs (English translation)
A dramatization of Frederick the Great's story, English subtitles
Mein Name ist Bach, Movie of Frederick the Great and J.S. Bach, with subtitles Some discussion of the subtitles in the thread here (also scroll down)
2017 miniseries about Maria Theresia, with subtitles and better translation of one scene in comments

ETA:
Miniseries of Peter the Great, IN ENGLISH, apparently reasonably historically solid
ETA 10-22-19
Website with letters from and to Wilhelmine during her 1754/1755 journey through France and Italy, as well as a few letters about Wilhelmine, in the original French, in a German translation, and in facsimile
University of Trier site where the full works of Friedrich in the original French and German have been transcribed, digitized, and uploaded:
30 volumes of writings and personal correspondence
46 volumes of political correspondence
Fritz and Wilhelmine's correspondence (vol 27_1)
ETA 10-28-19
Der Thronfolger (German, no subtitles; explanation of action in the comment here)
ETA 11-6-19
Memoirs of Stanisław August Poniatowski, dual Polish and French translation
ETA 1-14-20
Our Royal Librarian Mildred has collated some documentation, including google translate versions of the Trier letters above (see the "Correspondence" folder)!

Re: Maria Theresia Trivia

Date: 2019-10-22 04:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard
Yeah, this comment was truly one amazing gem after another. Keep it coming!

periodically made attempts to persuade MT to maybe consider a reconciliation with Prussia over a French alliance ... which were all met with a resounding "No, Franzl, NO".

Hahaha, this is awesome. Love the parallels.

Heinrich: Do you think we could maybe calm the fuck down and let the Austrians have some of their territory back?
Fritz: NO.
Franzl: Do you think maybe letting Fritz keep some of our territory would not be the worst thing in the world?
MT: NO.
Joseph: Do you think maybe Fritz is actually kinda awesome at times?
MT: NO.
Joseph: Do you think maybe we should piss Fritz et al. off by invading Bavaria?
MT: What, am I the only sane person in this family? How many times do I have to say it? No, no, and NO.

which by the time you're getting this letter I'm actually invading

Fritz: doing his level best to deliver the letter in person. :P

Re: Maria Theresia Trivia

Date: 2019-10-22 12:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] selenak
Clearly, Heinrich and Franzl need to have a drink somewhere at some point. Also, Prussiam Ambassador to Fritz in a dispatch (in rl, not in my paraphrased imagination): "She detests Your Majesty, but acknowledges your ability. She cannot forget the loss of Silesia, nor her grief over the soldiers she lost in wars with you."

I'm mentioning this because in the two MT biographies I'm currently reading bit by bit, again one of the biographers complains she wasn't chill about Fritz the way he totally was about her! (*caugh* "Apostolisches Rabenaas", "one of the three whores of Europe", "stinks of diapers all the time" "Your FRIEND the Queen of Hungary" *cough*)

BTW, have replied to the other comments at the new post!
Edited Date: 2019-10-22 12:47 pm (UTC)

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