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More Frederick the Great (henceforth "Fritz") and surrounding spinoffs history! Clearly my purpose in life is now revealed: it is to encourage [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard and [personal profile] selenak to talk to me about Frederick the Great and associated/tangential European history. I am having such a great time here! Collating some links in this post:

* selenak's post on Frederick the Great as a TV show with associated fandom; a great place to start for the general history

* I have given up indexing all posts, here is the tag of discussion posts. Someday when I actually have time maybe I'll do a "best of."


Some links that have come up in the course of this discussion (and which I am putting here partially for my own benefit because in particular I haven't had time to watch the movies because still mainlining Nirvana in Fire):
Fritz' sister Wilhelmine's tell-all tabloidy memoirs (English translation); this is Part I; the text options have been imperfectly OCR'd so be aware of that (NOTE 11-6-19: THIS IS A BOWDLERIZED TEXT, I WILL COME BACK WITH A BETTER LINK)
Part II of Wilhelmine's memoirs (English translation)
A dramatization of Frederick the Great's story, English subtitles
Mein Name ist Bach, Movie of Frederick the Great and J.S. Bach, with subtitles Some discussion of the subtitles in the thread here (also scroll down)
2017 miniseries about Maria Theresia, with subtitles and better translation of one scene in comments

ETA:
Miniseries of Peter the Great, IN ENGLISH, apparently reasonably historically solid
ETA 10-22-19
Website with letters from and to Wilhelmine during her 1754/1755 journey through France and Italy, as well as a few letters about Wilhelmine, in the original French, in a German translation, and in facsimile
University of Trier site where the full works of Friedrich in the original French and German have been transcribed, digitized, and uploaded:
30 volumes of writings and personal correspondence
46 volumes of political correspondence
Fritz and Wilhelmine's correspondence (vol 27_1)
ETA 10-28-19
Der Thronfolger (German, no subtitles; explanation of action in the comment here)
ETA 11-6-19
Memoirs of Stanisław August Poniatowski, dual Polish and French translation
ETA 1-14-20
Our Royal Librarian Mildred has collated some documentation, including google translate versions of the Trier letters above (see the "Correspondence" folder)!
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From: [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard
Fredersdorf is a good choice; I was thinking of him for h/c purposes for exactly that reason! I was also thinking of Sophia Dorothea and the Countess Orzelska, so good to see them on the list.

Catherine vs. Voltaire doesn't matter to me either way, especially if we're just dividing them between us. I can take Catherine and you can take Voltaire?

If we weren't limited to 4, my other choices would be Algarotti, and, um, Fritz's dogs. :P

Of course, the best part of all this is that FW has been dropped like a hot potato. :D
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Well, anyone tackling young Fritz probably won't get around FW anyway, at least as a threatening shadow in the Background, so there's no reason to extra nominate him.

Okay, Voltaire it is! Am now really curious whether there will be Fritz/Voltaire frenemy stuff. Ideally, we could tempt someone who's an expert in Voltaire, which I'm decidedly not, alas.
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Well, anyone tackling young Fritz probably won't get around FW anyway, at least as a threatening shadow in the Background, so there's no reason to extra nominate him.

Okay, Voltaire it is! Am now really curious whether there will be Fritz/Voltaire frenemy stuff. Ideally, we could tempt someone who's an expert in Voltaire, which I'm decidedly not, alas.

(Once more with log in. I have no idea why I Keep getting de-logged!)
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From: [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard
Well, anyone tackling young Fritz probably won't get around FW anyway, at least as a threatening shadow in the Background, so there's no reason to extra nominate him.

More or less agree, and also he doesn't need to be on screen, so I wouldn't necessarily want him as a character. Plus I think it's possible to write a Fritz/Katte getting-to-know-each-other fic or a PWP or something without even alluding to FW. Let them be happy for an hour!

Yay for getting our nominations sorted. \o/

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