Re: James Keith and Eva Merthen

Date: 2025-05-03 11:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] selenak
I also thought of the Alte Dessauer, and I knew you were going to mention him! George is a possibility--and class may have played a role in his dislike of her--and so are Elizaveta and Fritz. The Alte Dessauer may not have faced the same kind of resistance from above.

Hm, just when did the Alte Dessauer marry? Was F1 still King, or FW already? If the later, yes, he might have counted on his buddy, but if the former, well, F1 did love his bling and his titles and had Hannover in laws who had a certified grudge against any noble/non-noble marriages.

But of course Old Dessauer was not an exile depending on someone employing him but a prince with his own territory, so the comparison with James Keith might be unfair. If, that is, Elizaveta and Fritz nixed any non-noble marriages.

Re: James Keith and Eva Merthen

Date: 2025-05-03 01:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard
It was F1. And yes, I was thinking the part where he was prince in his own territory was relevant.

Also, from my glance through Varnhagen von Ense on James' last years in Russia for the other post, it looks like George and James were separated the entire time between when James met Eva and when they ended up in Fritz's service a few years later. So if George was the reason James didn't marry her, it must have been via writing. And in that case, if George had never met her, the disapproval surely stemmed from class reasons.

But we're still speculating it was George. It may have been James who was like, "You make a fine long-term mistress, but you're not marriage material!"

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