Date: 2024-11-25 08:02 pm (UTC)
mildred_of_midgard: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard
Sounds like Greek mythology to me!

Date: 2024-11-26 09:50 am (UTC)
selenak: (Voltaire)
From: [personal profile] selenak
Well, obviously there's some inspiration there, though I will say that giving Sin Athena's origin story when Athena is one of the few Greek gods who didn't have an incestous relationship with another god is somewhat ironical - and even the Greeks didn't go double generational incest and intestine gnawing. (That sounds more Egyptian, except I doubt Milton the Cromwell fan and Puritan would have had access to Egyptian mythology, other than via Greek sources, and the Greeks only bothered with the Isis and Osiris myth, not with the whole convoluted creational myths.

Anyway: he's clearly going for fan unservice and wants to make Satan, Sin and Death as unsexy and gross as possible, since we're supposed to root against them and stay away from them. Since he simultanously famously came up with the first Byronic Satan who's had fans ever since, he only partly succeeded.

(BTW, what Voltaire did like about Paradise Lost were the depictions of Adam and Eve, which he found "tender" and "very human", and also that there was an emphasis on a loving creator God and not on a punishing wrathful God. (He read Milton - and a lot of other English literature - as part of his deep dive and speed language learning at the start of his exile.)

Date: 2024-11-27 04:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] selenak
Clearly, Voltaire the language genius has more in common with Mildred than just fascination with Fritz. :)

Date: 2024-12-07 04:28 am (UTC)
mildred_of_midgard: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard
<3

He supposedly learned English in 6 months, and 5 years later I'm still going, "Is 'kleinsten' right?", but then I suppose he was doing an involuntary immersion course, and I'm chipping away in 15-minute increments per day, if that. ;)

Date: 2024-12-07 04:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard
even the Greeks didn't go double generational incest and intestine gnawing.

I mean, not at the same time, but Zeus had sex with his mother, sisters, and daughters at various times, and Prometheus gets his liver gnawed on by an eagle, so it sounds pretty Greek to me!

Since he simultanously famously came up with the first Byronic Satan who's had fans ever since, he only partly succeeded.

Hahaha, trufax.

I read Paradise Lost back in college, but not since then, so my memories are extremely hazy. Thank you for the refresher and Voltairean commentary!

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