(gosh, I am pretty snowed under until Christmas what with music and Yuletide, but all this fascinating stuff keeps coming into my inbox! :P )
So my current suspicion is that the origin is actually Fritz via Katte, because Katte talked to Lövenörn and Guy-Dickens
Ohhhh that makes sense! Gosh.
This said, Chesterfield's version is somewhat close to how Wilhelmine herself describes the incident (hair dragging, then beating), minutes "the officers of the guard" where she gives credit to the heroic lady in waiting standing up to FW instead.
:( Yeah, I noticed this was close to Wilhelmine's version! :(
This reminds me of how I theorized that if Disney ever does a version of the Crown Prince Fritz story, they'll make Grumbkow and Seckendorff into the villains instead of FW so FW and Fritz can have a heartfelt honest reconciliation at the end of the movie. It's of course completley misreading Grumbkow's (and Seckendorff's) agenda and roles.
Ha, I remember that -- mostly because I agreed, Disney would so do that, and have FW and Fritz reconcile :P
But in the best Mafia style, none of this is personal and anti-Fritz, it's business, and in fact Grumbkow right then when Chesterfield suspects him is doing his best to make nice with Fritz, dispensing advice on how to deal with FW, so the currently good Austria-Prussia relations don't end the moment FW breathes his last.
I find this rather charming, in a weird sort of way, about Grumbkow.
There were all the attempts of ensuring he would be a King following the same political allignments as FW was right then, and this contributed to poisoning the atmosphere and heating up the marital warfare between SD and FW, so Fritz (and Wilhelmine) loathing them both regardless comes as no surprise.
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Re: 1730 in British rumors: Chesterfield
Date: 2024-11-24 06:12 am (UTC)So my current suspicion is that the origin is actually Fritz via Katte, because Katte talked to Lövenörn and Guy-Dickens
Ohhhh that makes sense! Gosh.
This said, Chesterfield's version is somewhat close to how Wilhelmine herself describes the incident (hair dragging, then beating), minutes "the officers of the guard" where she gives credit to the heroic lady in waiting standing up to FW instead.
:( Yeah, I noticed this was close to Wilhelmine's version! :(
This reminds me of how I theorized that if Disney ever does a version of the Crown Prince Fritz story, they'll make Grumbkow and Seckendorff into the villains instead of FW so FW and Fritz can have a heartfelt honest reconciliation at the end of the movie. It's of course completley misreading Grumbkow's (and Seckendorff's) agenda and roles.
Ha, I remember that -- mostly because I agreed, Disney would so do that, and have FW and Fritz reconcile :P
But in the best Mafia style, none of this is personal and anti-Fritz, it's business, and in fact Grumbkow right then when Chesterfield suspects him is doing his best to make nice with Fritz, dispensing advice on how to deal with FW, so the currently good Austria-Prussia relations don't end the moment FW breathes his last.
I find this rather charming, in a weird sort of way, about Grumbkow.
There were all the attempts of ensuring he would be a King following the same political allignments as FW was right then, and this contributed to poisoning the atmosphere and heating up the marital warfare between SD and FW, so Fritz (and Wilhelmine) loathing them both regardless comes as no surprise.
Heh, whoops.