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Background: The kids' school has a topic for "Unit" every trimester that a lot of their work (reading, writing, some math) revolves around. These topics range from time/geographic periods ('Colonial America') to geography ('Asia') to science ('Space') to social science ('Business and Economics'). (I have some issues with this way of doing things, but that's a whole separate post.) Anyway, for Reasons, they have had to come up with a new topic this year, and E's 7/8 class is doing "World Fairs" as their new topic.

Me: I know E's teacher is all about World Fairs and I know she is great and will do a good job. But I feel like if we had a different teacher who wasn't so into World Fairs, they wouldn't do such a good job and another topic would be better.
Me: Like... the Enlightenment!
D: Heh, you could teach that! But you'd have to restrain yourself from making everything about Frederick the Great.
Me: But that's the thing! Everyone does relate to each other in this time period! Voltaire -- and his partner Émilie du Châtelet, who was heavily involved in the discourse of conservation of energy and momentum -- well, I've told you Voltaire had a thing with Fritz -- and then there's Empress Maria Theresa, who went to war with him a few times -- and Catherine the Great --
D, meditatively: You know --
Me: *am innocently not warned even though this is the same tone of voice that is often followed by, say, a bad pun*
D: -- it's impressive how everyone from this 'the Great' family is so famous!
Me: *splutters*
D, thoughtfully: But of course there's probably selection bias, as the ones who aren't famous don't get mentioned. You never see 'Bob the Great' in the history books...
Me: *splutters more*

Re: Maupertuis, my nemesis

Date: 2023-12-28 08:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] selenak
I am very impressed indeed by your dedication to the cause! It's awesome! I would have given up on Maupertuis ages ago. A dull written biography and terrible handwriting - truly, has Voltaire cursed him?

Anyway, it makes sense that Maupertuis wants to ensure Peter (and all his other supporters) are there for the König showdown, and yes, I can see it being postponed and delayed for any number of reasons. Re: the death of Tyrconnel, wasn't Tyrconnel (along with LaMettrie) also a source through which Fritz and Voltaire learned of the respective "dirty laundry" and "squeezing like an orange" remarks.

From everything I've read, Fritz made a big show of not caring about ceremony, but then wasn't totally consistent on that point. He didn't care, except when he did.

Like Dad in that way. And yes, I'm with Maupertuis, better to be on the safe side. BTW, that Peter's family writes in German, not French, really is a marker of them as being minor and countryside nobility, without the access to Huguenot French servants that nobles with residences in the capital and more status have. And it underlines again the extraordinariness of Fredersdorf corresponding and talking with Fritz in German throughout his life. Everyone else who wants something from Fritz (if they're not an army soldier or a country judge somewhere) is supposed to make the effort with the French. (All FW's fault.)


Re: Maupertuis, my nemesis

Date: 2023-12-28 09:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard
I am very impressed indeed by your dedication to the cause! It's awesome!

Thank you to you as well, for prodding me by email to return to my Peter and Fredersdorf essay work!

I would have given up on Maupertuis ages ago. A dull written biography and terrible handwriting - truly, has Voltaire cursed him?

Lol! To be fair to Maupertuis, his handwriting is probably perfectly legible if you're fluent; I'm just not. And there's a big difference between a command of French that allows you to look at 'p-o-i-t-r-i-n-e' and know it means "chest", and a command of French that allows you to look at a sprawl of ink and think, "Obviously that's 'poitrine'!"

Re: the death of Tyrconnel, wasn't Tyrconnel (along with LaMettrie) also a source through which Fritz and Voltaire learned of the respective "dirty laundry" and "squeezing like an orange" remarks.

I think so, yes. Sounds right.

Everyone else who wants something from Fritz (if they're not an army soldier or a country judge somewhere) is supposed to make the effort with the French.

One of the scholarly essays I read on Prussian diplomacy earlier this year said he made exceptions for some envoys. On the one hand, there was:

...the decision, on the second day of the new reign, that Prussian diplomats should henceforth correspond with their superiors in French and not in German.

But on the other hand,

This was, however, far from universally enforced in Prussian diplomacy. Throughout Frederick's reign, favoured individuals (often from a military background) who knew little or no French were allowed to correspond in German, which seems also to have been extensively used - logically enough for policy in the Reich. See, for one example, the 'Instructions' for Friedrich Sebastian Wunibald Graf von Waldburg-Zeil, who went on a mission to George II when he was at Hanover: these were drawn up in German, dated 10 June 1740, and are in GStPK, Rep. 96.31A.

Peter's cousin, though, is not a favored individual. Sorry, Peter!
Edited Date: 2023-12-28 08:51 pm (UTC)

Re: Maupertuis, my nemesis

Date: 2023-12-28 11:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard
I would have given up on Maupertuis ages ago. A dull written biography and terrible handwriting - truly, has Voltaire cursed him?

Forgot to say: this probably goes without saying, but I would have given up on him too, if the letters were to anyone but Peter! (Or Fredersdorf, I suppose.)

Also probably goes without saying, but: lots of guesses, I reserve the right to revise any of my readings. Also, anything in [] is not so much a reading, as me filling in words that make sense, so that you can read the letter and get the gist.

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