Historical Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 40

[cahn]

I'm trying to use my other account at least occasionally so I posted about my Yuletide gifts there, including the salon-relevant 12k fic that features Fritz, Heinrich, Voltaire, Fredersdorf, Saint Germain, Caroline Daum (Fredersdorf's wife), and Groundhog Day tropes! (Don't need to know canon.)

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Re: Struensee

[selenak]

LOL. Yes, since Stefan Hartmann is a committed Fritz-Fan himself and regards "History of my Time" and "History of the Seven Years War" (both by Fritz) as his main sources for all things Prussia, with their veracity never called into question, it's no wonder poor Struensee gets slandered by him as well, then.

MT married a Frenchman

*dies*

cahn, since you're currently with the Ottonians in the German History Podcast, you'll recall that the question as to whether Lothringia (i.e. Lorraine) is French or German is, err, only one of the main concerns for German Emperors from Charlemagne's great grandchildren onwards and, as Dirk says, will only be finally resolved in 1945.

Mind you, I do recall some people when MT promoted FS for HRE argued he wasn't German enough, but the people in question just didn't want another (married to a) Habsburg Emperor.

Re: Struensee

[mildred_of_midgard]

cahn, since you're currently with the Ottonians in the German History Podcast, you'll recall that the question as to whether Lothringia (i.e. Lorraine) is French or German is, err, only one of the main concerns for German Emperors from Charlemagne's great grandchildren onwards

I was going to say, I know the relationship of Lorraine to France in the 18th century is complicated and in flux, but all you have to know is that it's not the same as the relationship to France in the present day! It's been complicated since like 843!

Also, the book was written in 1985, so 1945 was within living memory. No excuse!