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Last post, along with the usual 18th-century suspects, included the Ottonians; changing ideas of conception and women's sexual pleasure; Isabella of Parma (the one who fell in love, and vice versa, with her husband's sister); Henry IV and Bertha (and Henry's second wife divorcing him for "unspeakable sexual acts"). (Okay, Isabella of Parma was 18th century.)

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From:

selenak

You are my heroine for listening till the end so I don‘t have to. Algarotti as the only lover (other than Katte) mentioned really looks like a shipper has struck. :)

(I think I‘ll do a boyfriends poll, if I can figure out good questions. Or write a filk. Or something. And then, separately from the longer term boyfriends, there‘s a special category for ill fated dashing hussars:

Glasow, Giorgi/Grigory, Deesen: Sigh.)

The lack of siblings, alas, I‘m used to. Usually when I talk to people I‘m lucky if they know about Wilhelmine, let alone any of the others, and to be fair: at the start of salon, I only knew Heinrich existed, had been gifted and gay and not getting along with Fritz, and that was it, and I would have had trouble naming any of the other non-Wilhelmine ones by name, let alone have any ideas of their personilities. Am similarlily unsurprised at the Partition of Poland - even the Stanislaus Poniatowski biographer whose book I read as part of my story research two Yuletides ago seemed to be under the impression it was a long term evil Fritzian Masterplan, and while he mentions Heinrich‘s trip to Russia briefly, it was in one sentence and in a „sent his brother Heinrich to Catherine“ way. (No mention of Heinrich arranging that trip behind Big Brother‘s back, let alone any longer term connection between Heinrich and Catherine.)

ROTFLOL on Zimmermann. BTW, was just reminded the other day that there‘s one non-Fritzian connection in which Zimmermann shows up in literary history - he kind of introduced a young Goethe to Charlotte von Stein by showing Goethe the silhouette he‘d made of her and told him about her. It‘s a small German speaking ancient regime world.

From:

mildred_of_midgard

The lack of siblings, alas, I‘m used to. Usually when I talk to people I‘m lucky if they know about Wilhelmine, let alone any of the others, and to be fair: at the start of salon, I only knew Heinrich existed, had been gifted and gay and not getting along with Fritz, and that was it, and I would have had trouble naming any of the other non-Wilhelmine ones by name

You were WAY ahead of me, all I knew was he had a brother who fathered FW2! That's it! No Heinrich, no Wilhelmine, nothing.

I did, however, come in knowing quite a bit about the details of his marriage. ;)

ETA: Meant to say, but also, you and I were not presenting publicly on the subject: we would have done more research first!

Am similarlily unsurprised at the Partition of Poland - even the Stanislaus Poniatowski biographer whose book I read as part of my story research two Yuletides

And the otherwise good book you recced about Joseph's travels, Der Kaiser Reist Inkognito, makes this mistake too, as I recall. Fritz worked very hard to make sure everyone would make this mistake! It was all a cunning plan!

Edited Date: 2022-12-14 08:08 pm (UTC)

From:

mildred_of_midgard

You are my heroine for listening till the end so I don‘t have to.

Yes, this! We all know I wasn't going to listen anyway, but thank you for listening so Selena didn't have to!