Historical Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 39

[cahn]

Last post, along with the usual 18th-century suspects, included the Ottonians; changing ideas of conception and women's sexual pleasure; Isabella of Parma (the one who fell in love, and vice versa, with her husband's sister); Henry IV and Bertha (and Henry's second wife divorcing him for "unspeakable sexual acts"). (Okay, Isabella of Parma was 18th century.)

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Re: Fritzian Dawn according to Le Diable

[mildred_of_midgard]

Kind of interesting that Manteuffel in particular is so optimistic about EC, given that not only was he the one to report tears in Fritz' eyes during the wedding, we also know, via Seckendorff Jr, that he had some further insight. I'm wondering if this is a result of less access, but then again, if Wartensleben was his source all the way through, it can't have been that.

Wasn't Wartensleben the source for Fritz saying EC had a nice ass, though?

Definitely interesting re: Wartensleben. Though he's more of a military man than the others, too, isn't he, and less notable for any artistic or literary knowledge?

Yep. And what he's most notable for, imo, is being that rare bird: someone who stayed on both Fritz's and FW's good sides in the late 1730s!

Oh, no, here I though we'd get another second hand source with at least some tidbits from the letters, but no, it's just what König already told us. Too bad. :(

I too was hoping for more from Manteuffel, but the problem with it being 3+ years into salon is that we've already found a lot of what's out there. :/