18th-Century Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 38

[cahn]

Gonna go ahead and make this post even though Yuletide is coming...

But in the meantime, there has been some fic in the fandom posted!

Holding His Space (2503 words) by felisnocturna
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: 18th Century CE RPF, 18th Century CE Frederician RPF
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Relationships: Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf/Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
Characters: Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf, Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
Additional Tags: Protectiveness, Domestic, Character Study
Summary:

Five times Fredersdorf has to stay behind - and one time Friedrich doesn't leave.

Using People (3392 words) by prinzsorgenfrei
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: 18th Century CE RPF
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Hans Hermann von Katte
Characters: Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great, Hans Hermann von Katte
Additional Tags: Fluff, Idiots in Love, reading plays aloud while gazing into each others eyes
Summary:

Friedrich had started to talk to him because he had thought of him as a bit of a ditz.
And now here he was. Here he was months later, bundled up in this very same man’s blankets with a cup of hot coffee in front of him, its scent mixing with that of Katte’s French perfume.
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Fluffy One Shot about one traitorous Crown Prince and the sycophant he accidentally fell for.

Comments

Re: More Peter Keith findings

[mildred_of_midgard]

Throwing this out there, in case anyone runs across any connections in their reading.

According to Peter Keith's eulogist who reports his family history, which was written down by Peter in his memoirs, presumably from memory:

• The first mentioned ancestor is a 16th century George Keith who lived in Scotland, was a colonel, and married a woman from the house of Stewart/Stuart.


• George's son, William Keith, left Scotland in 1606 at the age of 19 and went into Swedish service, where he became a captain of cavalry. He was related somehow to this much more famous Keith in Swedish service, Andrew Keith, Lord Dingwall.


• William's son George was a lieutenant in the Swedish guard.


• His son Jean Christophle/Hans Christoph established himself in Pomerania (then part of Sweden), and married Vigilantia Elisabeth von Woedtke, of the house of Sydow. He died in 1729, she died in 1747.


• The son of Hans Christoph and Vigilantia Elisabeth is our Peter, 1711-1756.

The alternating Williams and Georges exactly matches the naming practices of the Marischals, but that paradoxically makes it harder, because if you find a William or George of that line in the 16th century, he's the heir, and so not Peter's more obscure ancestor.

There's a George Keith of Troup who was born sometime around 1537, and his wife's name is unknown (so could be a Stewart) but he's a bit too old to have fathered William, who was born ca. 1587. And the only son I can find attested for him is named Alexander. I suppose he could have had a son named George who fathered William, or he could have had a son at age 50, but that's speculation.

Other than the naming problem, the problem is they went to Sweden, so they tend not to show up in Scottish documents. In books titled "Scots in Sweden" (of which I've found 2 so far), there's a lot of Andrew Keith, Lord Dingwall, but not a lot of details on other Keiths. One of the books says, "There are many Keiths in Swedish history," and gives examples of a John, an Alexander, and a James (not our James), but that's not helping here!

Since you can read Swedish sources, luzula, if you run across any 17th century William or George Keiths in Swedish service, let me know!

Re: More Peter Keith findings

[luzula]

Well, if I run into anything, I'll let you know. I did just put "Keith" into the Swedish army rolls 1620–1723 and got nothing…you can try it yourself here, if you think of any likely spelling variation.

Re: More Peter Keith findings

[mildred_of_midgard]

Thanks!