18th-Century Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 38

[cahn]

Gonna go ahead and make this post even though Yuletide is coming...

But in the meantime, there has been some fic in the fandom posted!

Holding His Space (2503 words) by felisnocturna
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: 18th Century CE RPF, 18th Century CE Frederician RPF
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Relationships: Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf/Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
Characters: Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf, Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
Additional Tags: Protectiveness, Domestic, Character Study
Summary:

Five times Fredersdorf has to stay behind - and one time Friedrich doesn't leave.

Using People (3392 words) by prinzsorgenfrei
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: 18th Century CE RPF
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Hans Hermann von Katte
Characters: Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great, Hans Hermann von Katte
Additional Tags: Fluff, Idiots in Love, reading plays aloud while gazing into each others eyes
Summary:

Friedrich had started to talk to him because he had thought of him as a bit of a ditz.
And now here he was. Here he was months later, bundled up in this very same man’s blankets with a cup of hot coffee in front of him, its scent mixing with that of Katte’s French perfume.
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Fluffy One Shot about one traitorous Crown Prince and the sycophant he accidentally fell for.

Comments

Re: The Ottonians

[cahn]

Of course, that safety net for Gaston expired the moment Anne produced future Louis XIV and Philippe the Gay, and I don‘t think it‘s a coincidence that Gaston only got entangled in one more conspiracy after that, and only peripherally (the Cinq Mars one), instead of starting them left right and center.

Heh, so it sounds like he was very aware of his safety net...?

Re: The Ottonians

[selenak]

Oh, to be sure. He was arrogant and not the smartest guy ever, but neither was he dumb enough to believe he could still pull these stunts once he was no longer the sole Bourbon heir. Let's not forget, brother Louis and Richelieu had sent Mom (Marie de' Medici) into exile, so Gaston would have been under no illusion that being a close family member alone would have saved him.

Re: The Ottonians

[mildred_of_midgard]

Whereas in Ottonian times:

Henry, brother of Otto I: Is *not* the heir, gets forgiven multiple times.

Henry the Quarrelsome, son of above Henry and first cousin of Otto II: *is* the heir (okay, there's another cousin, but no sons or brothers or uncles), gets locked up pronto, stripped of his lands, and locked up again when he escapes.

He's still locked up when Otto II dies, and then he makes his bid for power against Theophanu and Adalheid that you can read about in selenak's post, cahn.

I'm thinking that being the next heir wasn't a safety net in the 10th century the way it was in Bourbon times, because the rules of succession weren't set in stone. When brother Henry was rebelling, there had been exactly one (1) attempt to transfer a kingdom intact to the oldest son, and that was exactly what Henry was rebelling against. His and Otto's father, Henry the Fowler, had been elected king despite the fact that he wasn't part of the previous ruling family (and had rebelled against the previous king!), and the previous king, Konrad, had a brother, Eberhard, who was still alive and well!

So the rules here are just different.