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cahnAnd including Emperor Joseph II!
from Derek Beales: Joseph II, Volume 2: Against the World, 1780 - 1790:
Joseph's alleged comment to Mozart about the Entführung, "Too many notes", has been taken as evidence of his ignorance. But he probably said something like, "Too beautiful for our ears, and monstrous many notes." It is always necessary to bear in mind, when appraising the emperor's remarks, his peculiar brand of humor or sarcasm. He was usually getting at someone. And he did not use the royal "we". The ears in question were those of the Viennese audience, whom he was mocking for their limited appreciation of Mozart's elaborate music.
(though not gonna lie, I think it is a LOT of notes)
from Derek Beales: Joseph II, Volume 2: Against the World, 1780 - 1790:
Joseph's alleged comment to Mozart about the Entführung, "Too many notes", has been taken as evidence of his ignorance. But he probably said something like, "Too beautiful for our ears, and monstrous many notes." It is always necessary to bear in mind, when appraising the emperor's remarks, his peculiar brand of humor or sarcasm. He was usually getting at someone. And he did not use the royal "we". The ears in question were those of the Viennese audience, whom he was mocking for their limited appreciation of Mozart's elaborate music.
(though not gonna lie, I think it is a LOT of notes)
Re: Keith brothers
Date: 2022-01-17 10:24 am (UTC)Either Fritz or not!Robert is lying or being forgetful here. Discuss!
Well, both have motive. Not!Robert was witnessed that FW didn't explode until he learned of Peter's desertion, therefore is aware FW regards the knowledge that Fritz wasn't going to take off all by himself but in agreement with other soldiers as way worse than the knowledge only Fritz was going to, especially since Fritz has social power over Not!Robert.
Otoh, Fritz, at this point blissfully unafraid for himself, is aware FW is now on the warpath against everyone he sees as Fritz' co conspirators, and he knows that the Keiths don't have Katte's advantage of old and rich family members in good standing with FW. (He also has no way of knowing whether or not Peter has escaped for good. I doubt Fritz got a daily update from his father on that.) If, however, he makes it look like Not!Robert was blackmailed by him to keep mum, he helps excusing Not!Robert in his father's eyes.
This would fit with Fritz insisting it was all his idea and not to blame Katte (or Wilhelmine, or Mom) in his interrogations. Otoh, I am also ready to believe that he's simply telling the truth - he did use extortion on Not!Robert. Which in this situation I can see him capable of.
Either way, clearly it worked in Not!Robert's favor, given that FW gave him Peter's old job and didn't punish him.
I wonder if Peter ever found out how that went down.
It would depend on whether Not!Robert was still alive when Peter came back, but if we knew that, I guess we'd know what Not!Robert was actually called!
Re: Keith brothers
Date: 2022-01-17 03:50 pm (UTC)therefore is aware FW regards the knowledge that Fritz wasn't going to take off all by himself but in agreement with other soldiers as way worse than the knowledge only Fritz was going to
And this. I think the last thing not!Robert wanted FW to believe was that he was part of the big conspiracy with actually-deserting Peter.
It would depend on whether Not!Robert was still alive when Peter came back, but if we knew that, I guess we'd know what Not!Robert was actually called!
Ha! Well, I think Kloosterhuis says the two major candidates were still alive in 1740--at least one of them was. Yes, I just checked, and both were still alive:
Wahrscheinlich Georg Friedrich Wilhelm von Keith (1713 – 1755), sechstes Kind des Hans Christoph von Keith zu Poberow (Anm. 166). Da dessen Geburtsdatum auch mit „um 1710“ bezeichnet wird (Nachlaß Gallandi, Anm. 166), käme auch sein Bruder Johann Friedrich von Keith (1714 – 1793) in Frage, der sein Leben als Gutsbesitzer in Ostpreußen verbrachte.
So if Johann Friedrich or George Friedrich Wilhelm wants to tell returning Peter how their arm was twisted, they're still around to do it! OTOH, this might have been one of those things We Do Not Talk About. Hard to say!
Either way, clearly it worked in Not!Robert's favor, given that FW gave him Peter's old job and didn't punish him.
More or less: they ended up in different regiments, but yes. Exactly.
For reference (that probably only I care about ;)), Peter was in Dossow's Füsilierregiment, #31, not!Robert in Mosel's Füsilierregiment, #28. Both in Wesel.