Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 30
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cahnIn which, despite the title, I would like to be told about the English Revolution, which is yet another casualty of my extremely poor history education :P :)
Also, this is probably the place to say that RMSE opened with three Fritz-fics, all of which I think are readable with minimum canon knowledge:
The Boy Who Lived - if you knew about the doomed escape-from-Prussia-that-didn't happen and tragic death of Fritz's boyfriend Hans Hermann von Katte, you may not have known about Peter Keith, the third young man who conspired to escape Prussia -- and the only one who actually did. This is his story. I think readable without canon knowledge except what I just said here.
Challenge Yourself to Relax - My gift, I posted about this before! Corporate AU with my problematic fave, Fritz' brother Heinrich, who's still Fritz's l'autre moi-meme even in corporate AU. Readable without canon knowledge if one has familiarity with the corporate world and the dysfunctions thereof.
The Rise and Fall of the RendezvousWithFame Exchange - Fandom AU with BNF fanfic writer Voltaire, exchange mod Fritz, and the inevitable meltdown. (I wrote this one and am quite proud of the terrible physics-adjacent pun contained within.) Readable without canon knowledge if one has familiarity with fandom and the dysfunctions thereof :P
Also, this is probably the place to say that RMSE opened with three Fritz-fics, all of which I think are readable with minimum canon knowledge:
The Boy Who Lived - if you knew about the doomed escape-from-Prussia-that-didn't happen and tragic death of Fritz's boyfriend Hans Hermann von Katte, you may not have known about Peter Keith, the third young man who conspired to escape Prussia -- and the only one who actually did. This is his story. I think readable without canon knowledge except what I just said here.
Challenge Yourself to Relax - My gift, I posted about this before! Corporate AU with my problematic fave, Fritz' brother Heinrich, who's still Fritz's l'autre moi-meme even in corporate AU. Readable without canon knowledge if one has familiarity with the corporate world and the dysfunctions thereof.
The Rise and Fall of the RendezvousWithFame Exchange - Fandom AU with BNF fanfic writer Voltaire, exchange mod Fritz, and the inevitable meltdown. (I wrote this one and am quite proud of the terrible physics-adjacent pun contained within.) Readable without canon knowledge if one has familiarity with fandom and the dysfunctions thereof :P
Re: Empress Ch 10-16
Date: 2021-10-03 04:25 am (UTC)*nods* OK, point for her. Yeah, I wouldn't expect Zweig to have that precise term, but for his description to be consistent with it, which it sounds like it is.
Madame Du Barry: here Goldstone is not incorrect but one sided again in her one note negative description of Dubarry.
Heh, yeah, I figured as much from previous characters, and thank you for providing me with a less negative description <3
(And note she says "his brother Henry, who happened to be in Russia". Heinrich would like you to know where was no coincidence about this Russia trip whatsoever, he schemed hard behind Fritz' back to make it happen!)
LOLOLOL riiiiight!
Having read this part just now: am I ever glad I read the Five Princesses book, because the affair is mentioned there, and I'm believing its author over Goldstone's "Eleonore and her husband made that story up to please Joseph by slandering his sister" interpretation any time, for the simple reason that the Five Princesses author quotes letters from Eleonore Liechtenstein to her sister.
ARGH. I like how Goldstone's like "so she shared this information with the faction allied to Joseph" without mentioning it's her SISTER. Anyway, as usual thank you for clearing that up :P
and the ghost of George Bernhard Shaw condemns you to a thousand linguistic exercises per day for saying "Emma grew to love Greville as Eliza loved Higgins", Nancy Goldstone.
LOLOLOLOL this made me laugh, and also riiiiight! (I've never seen Pygmalion and I have seen My Fair Lady, so this didn't ping for me, but I've read it and I've also read Shaw's sequel outline where he's basically like "yeah this is my anti-ship," lol.)
And yet, I have regretted the death of the Empress-Queen: she brought honor to her throne and sex; I have gone to war with her, but I was never her enemy. Regarding the Emperor, the son of this great woman: I know him personally; he seemed too enlightened to me to me to make overhasty steps; I esteem him and do not fear him.
I love that, and honestly it would have made her book stronger to put it in. WHY. (She's such a good writer at making history entertaining! AND YET.)
[I've read through Ch 18 now, but won't be able to write it up tonight -- just saying, in case you want to preemptively inform me of the inaccuracies ;) (Though no pressure, I'll probably write it up tomorrow.) I suspect you'll be able to find some in the MA section...)