I had checked, but didn't see him, so figured you either hadn't gotten around to nominating yet or yours hadn't gone through. Good to know it's the latter!
Also. Hmm. I do have a biographical essay on Peter in the works. Perhaps I could use RMSE as an added incentive to, you know, actually finish writing it. For research purposes.
After all, it was RMSE that inspired me to finally track down his obituary a year ago, I just remembered.
cahn, how do you feel about corporate AU RMSE? That would probably be easier than anything for me at this point, and we could game our signups. And then you wouldn't have to beta my 30k word fic for selenak, and you'd have time to write your own fic, win-win. :P
So we don't do doubles, here are my Frederician nominations:
?! Ernst Ahasverus von Lehndorff/Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig von Preußen | Henry of Prussia (1726-1802) ?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Peter Karl Christoph von Keith ?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Voltaire (Writer) ?! Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf/Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great ?! Friedrich II von Preußen/Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig von Preußen | Henry of Prussia (1726-1802) ?! Francesco Algarotti/Henry of Prussia (1726-1802)
Btw, hoping to return to salon soon, as indicated in my most recent post. I need some variety in my Fritzian fandom activities (A fan shall not live by German study alone), and I miss you all!
LOL. I was looking through last year's Original Work nominations for inspiration, and what should I find but
King Who Fought in the War/Prince of Enemy Country He's Marrying as Part of the Peace Treaty
YES THIS.
Now seriously entertaining nominating Fritz/Joseph. :P Maybe Fritz/(P)Russian Pete.
Selena, are there any books you can recommend in German on our ViennaJoe? I was going to wait until after I'd finished Stollberg-Rilinger to ask, but...might as well ask now.
AnhaltSophie is married to Heinrich and playing Game of Thrones, and Fritz marries (P)Russian Pete during the Seven Years' War, and then AnhaltSophie has Peter killed because of *handwaves* reasons, and then the war ends a year later and as part of the peace treaty, Fritz marries ViennaJoe and it's GAME ON for everyone and their ambitions.
arrrrgh I was going to say RMSE is just NOT catering to my likes because i don't really want particular relationships in general (I just like character-based exchanges), and I honestly really don't have slash relationships I care deeply about. BUT I would totally sign up for the chance of this :P Also Worldcon is not going to be held right at the same time as the due date, AND the due date is after my next big work deadline, so, ugh. Maybe :)
Oh I forgot I hadn't answered this! YES PLEASE. Fritz/Mike is great, Heinrich/Kaphengst would be fine too. Basically just Corporate AU with Heavy Doses of Less Slashy Stuff, works for me with any canon pairings you like. (Canon because it's not as funny otherwise :) )
IDK how I managed to get so far into this fandom and I don't actually have any OTPs???? Except MT/FS, but that's definitely not slash.
OH NO WAIT I can definitely also request Fritz/Heinrich :D YES. (Though should I call that an OTP? More like a... one dysfunctional pairing??)
No, I can't, since I haven't yet read any, but you're reminding me that I've been meaning to check out that book about him and his five lady friends (you kow, whom he thanked on his deathbed for "tolerating me" and whom Leopold complained about him listening to). I'll check what the Stabi has.
But yeah, LOL on the prompt fitting our very first crack fic so precisely. Well, except for the part where the narrative emphasis on that one was on the Fritz & MT and Heinrich & FS interactions and ViennaJoe only came in the last reel, which presumably would incense a recipient in a slahsh ficathon. :)
. Well, except for the part where the narrative emphasis on that one was on the Fritz & MT and Heinrich & FS interactions and ViennaJoe only came in the last reel, which presumably would incense a recipient in a slahsh ficathon. :)
Except cahn. :P But yeah, if I were going to write this, I would go heavy on the plotty AU, as you can tell from where my brain started going with this.
The problem is that I don't know Joseph well enough to make him party to the main pairing, something I've been meaning to remedy, but wouldn't happen in time for this exchange. (Same reason I don't want to write Catherine/AnhaltSophie until I've had a chance to do more research.) (See, I knew salon would give my motivation a kick.)
Stabi has this and other Joseph bios; I'm posting the link here for myself so I'll find them again easier once I can order new books again (I'm still busy with the six I ordered, of which the Wilhelmine essay one is but one, since I have other stuff to research, not salon-related):
Cool, thanks. Let me know if any of them turns out to be good, and especially if one is readable by someone whose German is a bit slow and effortful. (In theory, I'm perfectly capable of reading Stollberg-Rilinger, whose syntax is in fact easier than Horowski's; in practice, I lose motivation more easily than I would like. Horowski held my fascination all the way through, which motivated me to wrestle with the language.)
Well, except for the part where the narrative emphasis on that one was on the Fritz & MT and Heinrich & FS interactions and ViennaJoe only came in the last reel, which presumably would incense a recipient in a slahsh ficathon. :)
oh pleeeeeeeeease give this to me! Or, I mean, any other plotty fic with lots of relationships in it, of which the slash relationship is only one :D
seriously if I sign up for this -- which I'm kind of vaguely thinking about doing if I can get nominations in, as I believe the timing doesn't line up to be as terrible as Unsent Letters (which I'm still bitter about, because I would have LOVED that exchange and I would have LOVED the fics you might have written for me) -- I would be so happy with all the plotty-and/or-crack fic in the world with lots of relationships of all flavors! But I will/would also ask for Peter, too, on mildred's behalf if she doesn't sign up. (Is it OK if you add mildred as a recip after the exchange is over? I would think so, along the same lines as declining a gift would also be fine after the exchange is over, though doing it during the exchange is likely to lead to wank.)
ETA: WAIT i just realized you nominated Fritz/Heinrich. HOW COULD I FORGET MY FAVORITE DYSFUNCTIONAL CRACK PAIRING. Okay um yeah the possibility I will sign up for this just went up by quite a lot. Now I just have to think of some other fandoms I want...
Well, if someone were to write Fritz/Heinrich bodyswitch in which they only get back into their correct bodies by dysfunctional sex, it would fit right in this fandom, is all I'm saying. :)
lolololol! That would be amazing!! I do demand in this case that Heinrich-in-Fritz's-body writes Fritz to tell him he has to attend the annual review :D
*regrets again that I didn't sign up for Unsent Letters and ask for this, although I don't think the idea had come up at that point*
We miss you desperately, too. Also, hey, if you do nominate Heinrich/Kaphengst, I'm going to ask for it, because he's the Heinrich boyfriend I haven't yet a fictional handle on, and since it's a key relationship in his life, I would like someone to tell me what's going on inside Kaphengst (other than the obvious benefit from being a prince's favourite, obviously).
Meanwhile, I'm delighted for having those options to provide you finally with the Peter fic with. If, that is, you and/or cahn take part in the ficathon, because let's face it, no one else will ask for Peter! (Even if a stray Fritz/Katte shipper should find their way to the ficathon. Can't you persuade the Mobster Author to join?)
Also, hey, if you do nominate Heinrich/Kaphengst, I'm going to ask for it, because he's the Heinrich boyfriend I haven't yet a fictional handle on
Hmmm. Will keep this in mind! I have thoughts, though not fully developed ones, since I haven't actually written a fic focusing on these two.
Can't you persuade the Mobster Author to join?)
Alas, not likely, judging by our conversation yesterday, but I will point out that she writes me Peter fic *without* me having to sign up for exchanges, hint hint. :D
?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Hans Hermann von Katte ?! Peter Karl Christoph von Keith/Francesco Algarotti ?! Hans Hermann von Katte/Peter Karl Christoph von Keith ?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Hans Hermann von Katte/Peter Karl Christoph von Keith ?! Francesco Algarotti/Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great ?! Christian Ludwig von Kaphengst/Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig von Preußen (1726-1802) ?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Ulrich Friedrich von Suhm ?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Joseph II Holy Roman Emperor ?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Pyotr III Fyodorovich | Peter III of Russia
Yay! Since none of our Fredericians made it to reviewed status yet, I edited Fritz/Manteuffel in, since I have a vague idea for a "young Fritz and two Saxon sugar daddies" story. (Though don't worry, the Peter idea is far more definite and will be dealt with first.)
In related news, I went looking for books about Joseph that are 1) not too expensive, 2) in English, 3) available in the US, in the interests of actually being able to read one in 2021, and I was able to purchase a short volume by Tim Blanning for $15 that's supposed to arrive Friday. So no promises, but you can see me making an effort. :) (Fic aside, reading something about Joseph has been on my to-do list for quite a while, and Blanning's the best I can do on short notice. At the very least, his Fritz bio was eminently readable, and remains the best of the Fritz bios I've read, despite errors.)
Lord Hervey/Algarotti, which, if the muse strikes, might enable me to get a story about the triangle with Lady Mary in. Or just a story about Lady Mary and Algarotti in their final years in Italy meeting again, reminscing about Hervey, and with her quizzing him about Fritz (and teasing him about the fact he writes poems for both Fritz and MT, just in case, since this is during the 7 Years War). (Hey, if it's a crack fic, one could mention him posting the wrong poem to the wrong monarch.)
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Date: 2021-05-09 07:38 pm (UTC):DDD
I had checked, but didn't see him, so figured you either hadn't gotten around to nominating yet or yours hadn't gone through. Good to know it's the latter!
Also. Hmm. I do have a biographical essay on Peter in the works. Perhaps I could use RMSE as an added incentive to, you know, actually finish writing it. For research purposes.
After all, it was RMSE that inspired me to finally track down his obituary a year ago, I just remembered.
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Date: 2021-05-09 07:41 pm (UTC)?! Ernst Ahasverus von Lehndorff/Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig von Preußen | Henry of Prussia (1726-1802)
?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Peter Karl Christoph von Keith
?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Voltaire (Writer)
?! Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf/Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
?! Friedrich II von Preußen/Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig von Preußen | Henry of Prussia (1726-1802)
?! Francesco Algarotti/Henry of Prussia (1726-1802)
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Date: 2021-05-09 07:47 pm (UTC)Fritz/PeterFritz/Katte
Peter/Algarotti
Peter/Katte
Fritz/Peter/Katte
Fritz/Algarotti
Heinrich/Kaphengst
ETA: Oh, Fritz/Suhm, of course.
Btw, hoping to return to salon soon, as indicated in my most recent post. I need some variety in my Fritzian fandom activities (A fan shall not live by German study alone), and I miss you all!
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Date: 2021-05-09 10:52 pm (UTC)King Who Fought in the War/Prince of Enemy Country He's Marrying as Part of the Peace Treaty
YES THIS.
Now seriously entertaining nominating Fritz/Joseph. :P Maybe Fritz/(P)Russian Pete.
Selena, are there any books you can recommend in German on our ViennaJoe? I was going to wait until after I'd finished Stollberg-Rilinger to ask, but...might as well ask now.
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Date: 2021-05-09 11:01 pm (UTC)AnhaltSophie is married to Heinrich and playing Game of Thrones, and Fritz marries (P)Russian Pete during the Seven Years' War, and then AnhaltSophie has Peter killed because of *handwaves* reasons, and then the war ends a year later and as part of the peace treaty, Fritz marries ViennaJoe and it's GAME ON for everyone and their ambitions.
:D :D :D
WHY must my brain produce plotty AU ideas, WHY.
Feel free to write this
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Date: 2021-05-10 12:24 pm (UTC)How do you feel about Fritz/Mike Corporate AU with heavy doses of less slashy stuff?
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Date: 2021-05-11 05:06 am (UTC)IDK how I managed to get so far into this fandom and I don't actually have any OTPs???? Except MT/FS, but that's definitely not slash.
OH NO WAIT I can definitely also request Fritz/Heinrich :D YES. (Though should I call that an OTP? More like a... one dysfunctional pairing??)
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Date: 2021-05-10 05:56 am (UTC)But yeah, LOL on the prompt fitting our very first crack fic so precisely. Well, except for the part where the narrative emphasis on that one was on the Fritz & MT and Heinrich & FS interactions and ViennaJoe only came in the last reel, which presumably would incense a recipient in a slahsh ficathon. :)
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Date: 2021-05-10 12:28 pm (UTC)Except
The problem is that I don't know Joseph well enough to make him party to the main pairing, something I've been meaning to remedy, but wouldn't happen in time for this exchange. (Same reason I don't want to write Catherine/AnhaltSophie until I've had a chance to do more research.) (See, I knew salon would give my motivation a kick.)
I'll check what the Stabi has.
Thanks!
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Date: 2021-05-10 03:58 pm (UTC)ViennaJoe books here.
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Date: 2021-05-11 04:59 am (UTC)oh pleeeeeeeeease give this to me! Or, I mean, any other plotty fic with lots of relationships in it, of which the slash relationship is only one :D
seriously if I sign up for this -- which I'm kind of vaguely thinking about doing if I can get nominations in, as I believe the timing doesn't line up to be as terrible as Unsent Letters (which I'm still bitter about, because I would have LOVED that exchange and I would have LOVED the fics you might have written for me) -- I would be so happy with all the plotty-and/or-crack fic in the world with lots of relationships of all flavors! But I will/would also ask for Peter, too, on mildred's behalf if she doesn't sign up. (Is it OK if you add mildred as a recip after the exchange is over? I would think so, along the same lines as declining a gift would also be fine after the exchange is over, though doing it during the exchange is likely to lead to wank.)
ETA: WAIT i just realized you nominated Fritz/Heinrich. HOW COULD I FORGET MY FAVORITE DYSFUNCTIONAL CRACK PAIRING. Okay um yeah the possibility I will sign up for this just went up by quite a lot. Now I just have to think of some other fandoms I want...
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Date: 2021-05-12 03:39 pm (UTC)*regrets again that I didn't sign up for Unsent Letters and ask for this, although I don't think the idea had come up at that point*
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Date: 2021-05-10 06:02 am (UTC)Meanwhile, I'm delighted for having those options to provide you finally with the Peter fic with. If, that is, you and/or
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Date: 2021-05-10 12:34 pm (UTC)Hmmm. Will keep this in mind! I have thoughts, though not fully developed ones, since I haven't actually written a fic focusing on these two.
Can't you persuade the Mobster Author to join?)
Alas, not likely, judging by our conversation yesterday, but I will point out that she writes me Peter fic *without* me having to sign up for exchanges, hint hint. :D
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Date: 2021-05-10 04:30 pm (UTC)No, of course not, and that is far more important, and earns my undying gratitude. <33
I'm just saying that it's theoretically possible. ;)
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Date: 2021-05-11 07:48 pm (UTC)?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Hans Hermann von Katte
?! Peter Karl Christoph von Keith/Francesco Algarotti
?! Hans Hermann von Katte/Peter Karl Christoph von Keith
?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Hans Hermann von Katte/Peter Karl Christoph von Keith
?! Francesco Algarotti/Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
?! Christian Ludwig von Kaphengst/Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig von Preußen (1726-1802)
?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Ulrich Friedrich von Suhm
?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Joseph II Holy Roman Emperor
?! Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Pyotr III Fyodorovich | Peter III of Russia
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Date: 2021-05-12 06:04 am (UTC)Re: Alert
Date: 2021-05-12 01:38 pm (UTC)In related news, I went looking for books about Joseph that are 1) not too expensive, 2) in English, 3) available in the US, in the interests of actually being able to read one in 2021, and I was able to purchase a short volume by Tim Blanning for $15 that's supposed to arrive Friday. So no promises, but you can see me making an effort. :) (Fic aside, reading something about Joseph has been on my to-do list for quite a while, and Blanning's the best I can do on short notice. At the very least, his Fritz bio was eminently readable, and remains the best of the Fritz bios I've read, despite errors.)
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