I see wikipedia has a 19th century painting of the ice house wedding (though they're both dressed in it):
no matter how bonkers it is in the rest of Europe, the Russians can always one-up them.
This is true.
this would not fly in places like France or Prussia (no matter how much FW might want to do exactly this :P).
Or else he would have done it. On a less humorous note, the thought of FW with the even greater power of a Czar is... something.
Back to a funnier note again, according to Morgenstern, he thought Prince Eugene, between being old and being senile, would surely collapse in the Philipsburg Campaign, and then the Emperor would have no choice but appoint him, FW, as clearly the only suitable candidate as the supreme commander of the Imperial Forces there, and was very disappointed when this did not happen and Eugene, senile or not, remained in command for the duration of the campaign. Now when I read this, I remembered that in Hervey's memoirs, he claims G2 spent the entire Philippsburg campaign incensed that he, who was clearly THE ONLY WORTHY CANDIDATE among the German princes, couldn't be there when this was probably his last shot to win glory in the field of war, while his stupid brother-in-law who was totally unworthy could be there. These two really were birds of a feather, and Fritz would have had such a weird sense of deja vu if he'd ever made it to England.
I see wikipedia has a 19th century painting of the ice house wedding (though they're both dressed in it):
Yeah, so my source is Wikipedia, not any kind of original document, so between a Wikipedia article and a 19th century painting of an early 18th century event, either could be correct. ;)
They do look cold, regardless!
Or else he would have done it.
EXACTLY. FW turning a prince into a court fool for marrying a Catholic archduchess? FW torturing his son to death? A Russian FW would have!
On a less humorous note, the thought of FW with the even greater power of a Czar is... something.
ZOMG, yes. Also, let's not forget Peter the Great made it so you got to name your successor. AW would have been tsar in a heartbeat. No need to get Fritz's agreement or ask MT's dad and the diet!
Does Russian Fritz stage a coup in this scenario? Assuming he survives, I think Russian Fritz does. The only question is whether he waits for AW (where he has the advantage of being the firstborn son, by a whole 10 years) or goes straight for FW.
G2 and FW at Phillipsburg, OMG, that's hilarious, of course they did! No wonder they hated each other.
These two really were birds of a feather, and Fritz would have had such a weird sense of deja vu if he'd ever made it to England.
Does Russian Fritz stage a coup in this scenario? Assuming he survives, I think Russian Fritz does. The only question is whether he waits for AW (where he has the advantage of being the firstborn son, by a whole 10 years) or goes straight for FW.
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Re: The Life and Times of Samuel Jakob Morgenstern
Date: 2021-03-14 03:22 pm (UTC)no matter how bonkers it is in the rest of Europe, the Russians can always one-up them.
This is true.
this would not fly in places like France or Prussia (no matter how much FW might want to do exactly this :P).
Or else he would have done it. On a less humorous note, the thought of FW with the even greater power of a Czar is... something.
Back to a funnier note again, according to Morgenstern, he thought Prince Eugene, between being old and being senile, would surely collapse in the Philipsburg Campaign, and then the Emperor would have no choice but appoint him, FW, as clearly the only suitable candidate as the supreme commander of the Imperial Forces there, and was very disappointed when this did not happen and Eugene, senile or not, remained in command for the duration of the campaign. Now when I read this, I remembered that in Hervey's memoirs, he claims G2 spent the entire Philippsburg campaign incensed that he, who was clearly THE ONLY WORTHY CANDIDATE among the German princes, couldn't be there when this was probably his last shot to win glory in the field of war, while his stupid brother-in-law who was totally unworthy could be there. These two really were birds of a feather, and Fritz would have had such a weird sense of deja vu if he'd ever made it to England.
Re: The Life and Times of Samuel Jakob Morgenstern
Date: 2021-03-14 04:42 pm (UTC)Yeah, so my source is Wikipedia, not any kind of original document, so between a Wikipedia article and a 19th century painting of an early 18th century event, either could be correct. ;)
They do look cold, regardless!
Or else he would have done it.
EXACTLY. FW turning a prince into a court fool for marrying a Catholic
archduchess? FW torturing his son to death? A Russian FW would have!On a less humorous note, the thought of FW with the even greater power of a Czar is... something.
ZOMG, yes. Also, let's not forget Peter the Great made it so you got to name your successor. AW would have been tsar in a heartbeat. No need to get Fritz's agreement or ask MT's dad and the diet!
Does Russian Fritz stage a coup in this scenario? Assuming he survives, I think Russian Fritz does. The only question is whether he waits for AW (where he has the advantage of being the firstborn son, by a whole 10 years) or goes straight for FW.
G2 and FW at Phillipsburg, OMG, that's hilarious, of course they did! No wonder they hated each other.
These two really were birds of a feather, and Fritz would have had such a weird sense of deja vu if he'd ever made it to England.
They even like Handel!
Russian Fritz
Date: 2021-03-20 04:50 am (UTC)Okay, I want this AU too! :P
Re: The Life and Times of Samuel Jakob Morgenstern
Date: 2021-03-20 04:49 am (UTC)