Fritz would have likely been obliged not only to take them in but, if Anton Ulrich’s older brother, Charlotte’s husband as the reigning Duke of Braunschweig had demanded it, provide military assistance against Russia. => Fritz telling Elizaveta to look them out of sight and out of mind.
wooow. That is... frighteningly plausible and IC. (Even before I read that Leopold was also not too keen on helping Marie Antoinette, though at least I guess he didn't advise Revolutionary France...)
No, that was Philippe d'Orleans. (Neither the gay brother of the Sun King nor his son the Regent, but the Regent's son (or grandson? Not 100% sure) who renamed himself Philipe l'Egalité and actually voted for Louis XVI. execution in the National Convent. Not that it saved him from the same fate in the long term.)
Great-grandson. The son, as I recall, was the one who became not only extremely pious and retreated from society, but decided to invent his own religion. In which, among other things, he denied the existence of death. When he wanted to talk to someone and was told they were dead, he refused to believe it and insisted it was a conspiracy to keep him from seeing them.
Somebody who knew how to manage him, once got him to sign paperwork instead of throwing a fit about it, by explaining that the word for "late" in whichever language it was didn't mean "dead", but was an honorary title given to all kings of Spain, an explanation which he accepted.
According to one of Horowski's wittiest remarks, he eventually "died, in refutation of his own pet theory." God, I love Horowski.
Only slightly less deranged but far more harmful was the Duc de Mazarin, husband of Hortense Mancini, niece of the Cardinal Mazarin. Fanatically religious, the Duke is famous for having knocked off all the penises from his family's statue collection (this story rings a faint bell, though I couldn't have told you who the guilty party was), and somewhat less famous for having forbidden the milkmaids on his estates from milking cows, lest they get ideas from handling udders aka cow-breasts, and according to Horowski, being narrowly talked out of having his daughters' teeth pulled to make them less attractive, to reduce the chances of them having affairs; according to Wikipedia, actually knocked out his maidservants' teeth for the same reason.
I'm like, look, dude, just because you're not getting any and therefore find cows disturbingly attractive, doesn't mean we all do! :P Also, leave women's teeth alone, ffs.
explaining that the word for "late" in whichever language it was didn't mean "dead", but was an honorary title given to all kings of Spain, an explanation which he accepted.
Bwahahaha that's kind of brilliant.
he eventually "died, in refutation of his own pet theory."
HEE. Okay, I am really liking Horowski too by proxy :)
The cow thing, I am just... that... doesn't even make crazy sense?? The maids have their own breasts, why would handling cow breasts make any difference whatsoever... On second thought, probably a good thing no one told the Duke that, he'd probably have tried to cut off their breasts.
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Re: Ivan VI
Date: 2021-02-13 06:23 am (UTC)=> Fritz telling Elizaveta to look them out of sight and out of mind.
wooow. That is... frighteningly plausible and IC. (Even before I read that Leopold was also not too keen on helping Marie Antoinette, though at least I guess he didn't advise Revolutionary France...)
Re: Ivan VI
Date: 2021-02-13 05:27 pm (UTC)Crazy d'Orleans and Mazarin heirs
Date: 2021-02-13 05:50 pm (UTC)Great-grandson. The son, as I recall, was the one who became not only extremely pious and retreated from society, but decided to invent his own religion. In which, among other things, he denied the existence of death. When he wanted to talk to someone and was told they were dead, he refused to believe it and insisted it was a conspiracy to keep him from seeing them.
Somebody who knew how to manage him, once got him to sign paperwork instead of throwing a fit about it, by explaining that the word for "late" in whichever language it was didn't mean "dead", but was an honorary title given to all kings of Spain, an explanation which he accepted.
According to one of Horowski's wittiest remarks, he eventually "died, in refutation of his own pet theory." God, I love Horowski.
Only slightly less deranged but far more harmful was the Duc de Mazarin, husband of Hortense Mancini, niece of the Cardinal Mazarin. Fanatically religious, the Duke is famous for having knocked off all the penises from his family's statue collection (this story rings a faint bell, though I couldn't have told you who the guilty party was), and somewhat less famous for having forbidden the milkmaids on his estates from milking cows, lest they get ideas from handling udders aka cow-breasts, and according to Horowski, being narrowly talked out of having his daughters' teeth pulled to make them less attractive, to reduce the chances of them having affairs; according to Wikipedia, actually knocked out his maidservants' teeth for the same reason.
I'm like, look, dude, just because you're not getting any and therefore find cows disturbingly attractive, doesn't mean we all do! :P Also, leave women's teeth alone, ffs.
Re: Crazy d'Orleans and Mazarin heirs
Date: 2021-02-13 06:09 pm (UTC)Bwahahaha that's kind of brilliant.
he eventually "died, in refutation of his own pet theory."
HEE. Okay, I am really liking Horowski too by proxy :)
The cow thing, I am just... that... doesn't even make crazy sense?? The maids have their own breasts, why would handling cow breasts make any difference whatsoever... On second thought, probably a good thing no one told the Duke that, he'd probably have tried to cut off their breasts.
Re: Crazy d'Orleans and Mazarin heirs
Date: 2021-02-13 06:12 pm (UTC)That's what I thought!
The cow thing, I am just... that... doesn't even make crazy sense??
It does if you're into cows! :P I mean...that's the only explanation I've got. (ETA: See also this guy I knew.)