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ETA: Whoops, I missed my cue -- this might as well be the next discussion post, I guess! :)

This is about the fic I didn't author (I have another reveals post for the fics I did author).

So my goal this Yuletide was NOT to write any historical fandom (because hard!) and just enjoy the excellent stuff that other people wrote. And... that sort of happened? I didn't end up authoring anything history-intensive? Buuuuut I ended up spending a lot more time than I did on any of my own fics working with [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard on her fic, which she was worried about being able to pull off because she had had this completely insane idea to write a long casefic about Frederick the Great that every time I turned around had another twist put in :P :) She supplied me with what we called a "rough opal in matrix" bus pass casefic, and I cut away the matrix that remained and in some cases carved the opal -- that is to say, writing additional text for some of the scenes, what we liked to call "putting in feels," and in at least two cases entirely rewriting and/or restructuring the scene she'd written. She didn't always keep what I wrote (which we'd agreed upon in the beginning), but when she did (which was most of the time :) ) she then went in and rewrote/restructured what I put in to wordsmith (some of the words I gave her were really rough) and match her style, adding even more scenes -- that is, polishing it up and adding some gold and diamonds -- and voila, a beautiful pendant, I mean, story :)

I'm really proud of it and also it was really fun and also what I could handle this year, especially because mildred did all the parts I thought were hard and also wrote all the parts involving actual history or subtle AU before I was brought in so I didn't actually have to know historical stuff (though I guess I will never forget the battle of Leuthen now), and took full responsibility for how the whole thing turned out, so all I had to do was be like "Here, I'll write some rough feels for you for this scene!" The funny part was that I would often then write a paragraph justifying why I *had* to write the scene the way I did, and more likely than not mildred would be like, "yeah, I was sure you would do that, of course it should be written like that." (The most glaring example of this was where I inserted the Letter of Doom at the climax. I was worried there was some reason she didn't want it there, but she said, no, she just didn't have time to put it in herself and was just trusting me to do that :) ) She started jokingly calling me her "other self," to which I replied that it was with 1000% less angst and frustration -- as Frederick the Great's brother was his "other self" (which actually comes up in the fic) that he could trust to do all kinds of competent things, but they had a relationship that was, um, fraught? radioactive? Whereas this was just fun :)

Mildred did so much more than I did (we estimated a 90%/10% word ratio, not even counting the part where she wordsmithed a lot of my text) that I felt very uncomfortable being listed as a co-author, but hey, ~3000 words is a respectable Yuletide fic length :)

Yet They Grind Exceedingly Small (30384 words) by mildred_of_midgard
Chapters: 5/5
Fandom: 18th Century CE RPF, Historical RPF
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Major Character Death
Relationships: Anna Amalie von Preußen & Wilhelmine von Preußen, Anna Amalie von Preußen & Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig von Preußen, Wilhelmine von Preußen & Elisabeth Friederike Sophie von Brandenburg-Bayreuth, Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great & Wilhelmine von Preußen | Wilhelmine of Prussia
Characters: Anna Amalie von Preußen (1723-1787), Wilhelmine von Preußen | Wilhelmine of Prussia (1709-1758), Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig von Preußen | Henry of Prussia (1726-1802), Elisabeth Friederike Sophie von Brandenburg-Bayreuth (1732-1780), Wilhelmine von Hesse-Kassel (1726-1808), August Wilhelm von Preußen | Augustus William of Prussia (1722-1758), Alcmene 1 | Frederick the Great's Italian Greyhound, Voltaire (Writer), Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Dysfunctional Family, Suicide, Alternate Universe - Dark, Siblings, Canon-Typical Violence, Mystery, Tide of History Challenge
Summary:

January 1758. Prince William is dead, some say of a broken heart. Frederick wants to absolve himself of blame for William's death. Henry schemes to end the Third Silesian War on his terms. Amalie and Wilhelmine team up to find out what really happened to their brother. Alcmene just wants to be told she's a good dog.

Perfume? Perfume.

Date: 2021-01-23 01:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] prinzsorgenfrei
Just a funny thing I found yesterday:

Cologne-based fragrance company Farina, known for their "Original Eau de Cologne", includes a a list of famous customers they've had in their over 300 years of business with their bottles of said original cologne, the fragrance of which has remained unchanged since 1709. Like any good Rhineland family, mine has a bottle of not only 4711 but also a bottle of Farina lying around somewhere, so I checked the list and found... quite a few people.

Like Fritz (who got some in 1745), Voltaire (also 1745), Maria Theresia (1740), and Napoléon (1804).

And, to my unending surprise, FW, who bought some in 1734.

So, uh... at least according to the records of Farina, both Fritz and FW smelled like "an Italian spring morning right after the rain, oranges, grapefruits, lemons, bergamot, cedrat, lime and the flowers and herbs of [Italy]" at some point. Somewhat bizarre, but an interesting tidbit. Wouldn't have connected either of them with the smell of oranges and bergamot tbh :'D

Re: Perfume? Perfume.

Date: 2021-01-23 09:42 pm (UTC)
selenak: (James Boswell)
From: [personal profile] selenak
Well now! I knew about Napoleon and am not surprised at Fritz, MT and Voltaire, but FW - as ever - is truly the outlier there. I mean, perfume being used by men as well as women was entirely normal in that century - like powder and make-up - , but FW would have been the one Rokoko guy whom I’d have assumed to be an outlier there, too, and not use it. K

Now if the year had been 1733, I would have assumed a possible reason, to wit, his one failed attempt at adultery after all, the pass he’d made at Fräulein von Pannewitz which got him punched. That might have inspired him to make some effort to come across as attractive to a younger woman. But 1734 is post punching and thus he’s back to being NO WHORES NO THEATRE etc.

Re: Perfume? Perfume.

Date: 2021-01-23 09:48 pm (UTC)
mildred_of_midgard: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard
LOL, you made the same connection I did, except that I was going to speculate, tongue-in-cheek, that he's given up on getting laid by anyone but his wife and is now going to desperate lengths to get back in SD's bed by at least smelling like a proper baroque royal/nobleman!

Note also that Fritz is at war in 1745 (the year of Soor, battle famous for dognapped greyhounds and oversized shirts). If we ever turn up a month, that will be interesting. Winter quarters? The height of the campaigning season? The December peace?

Technically, FW (like Fritz) is also campaigning in 1734, but only for a few weeks, plus travel, so the existence of chronological overlap is less obvious.

ETA: As repetition for those who need it, summer 1734 was the siege of Philipsburg, the one where Fritz met Eugene of Savoy and Voltaire was present as an observer on the other side. It was part of the War of the Polish Succession, where August the Strong's son and Stanislaw Leszczyński are duking it out for who gets to be King of Poland.
Edited Date: 2021-01-23 10:23 pm (UTC)

Re: Perfume? Perfume.

Date: 2021-01-24 07:21 am (UTC)
selenak: (Wilhelmine)
From: [personal profile] selenak
I was going to speculate, tongue-in-cheek, that he's given up on getting laid by anyone but his wife and is now going to desperate lengths to get back in SD's bed by at least smelling like a proper baroque royal/nobleman!

A viable theory! And maybe he did his Rhineland perfume shopping discreetly when marching to Philippsburg for the short time he was there? :)

Note also that Fritz is at war in 1745 (the year of Soor, battle famous for dognapped greyhounds and oversized shirts). If we ever turn up a month, that will be interesting. Winter quarters? The height of the campaigning season? The December peace?

Actually, for Fritz and MT my theory is that both their perfumes were gifts by people wishing to ingratiate themselves, because MT's is in 1740, i.e. when she got on the throne, and Fritz getting his in the year that makes it clear he's going to win Silesia 2 as well. Otoh, if Fritz did his own perfume shopping, then maybe he wants to smell nice for Fredersdorf when he finally comes home as Frederick The Great (tm)?

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