remember what Hahn said re: the historiography? Raumer's volume in a century where everthing Fritz was eaten up and became a bestseller almost sank without a trace.
And apparently Hahn, overcompensating in the other direction, didn't buy it either. Why is this so hard, people?!
which, well, is not verified by anyone else's description, including hers. (But it's certainly what he would have heard from the SD corner.)
Ooh, yes, that makes sense.
FW wanted his son broken, but he also wanted him shaved and not living in his excrements.
Indeed. One of their long-standing battlegrounds was that Fritz was careless about hygiene, and FW was fastidious about it, not in a foppish kind of way, but in a spic-and-span Prussian soldier kind of way (my sources said soldiers could get beaten if half a button wasn't polished adequately when they appeared for reviews). I've always thought Fritz's lifelong habits of wiping his ink on his sleeves and basically flouring himself with Spanish snuff might go back a teeeensy bit to this battle for identity against his father. (Soldiers still had to adhere to military standards, but Fritz does what Fritz wants, or sometimes at least the opposite of what Dad wants.)
But he's still a great primary source, even more so for usually saying where he got his intel from.
We love you, Dickens! (I didn't until now, but my inner historiographer now knows that I love you!)
"Take care of Portsmouth, and let not poor Nelly starve."
I had forgotten this quote if I learned it (and I feel like I probably did, since I did read accounts of his deathbed scene). Tongue-in-cheek question: if this is the continental example, does that mean Fredersdorf is "Mike" when Fritz is talking? ;)
I had forgotten this quote if I learned it (and I feel like I probably did, since I did read accounts of his deathbed scene).
In the (rather good) miniseries about him, which you should see in the European version ("Charles II: The Power and the Passion"), since the American ("The Last King") one got trimmed down and censored severely, making mincemeat of some of the political plots and character motivations, the scriptwriters used the line but changed "Portsmouth" to "Louise", since they figured a modern audience would wonder what Charles has against Southhampton and Plymouth that he doesn't name them as well, according to the audio commentary. ;)
Talking of dying British monarch's, SD's brother G2 might have been unwilling to do anything for his nephew (and niece!), but the story of how he responded when his dying wife Caroline told him that she doesn't want him to be alone, he should marry again, is endearing and very 18th century: "Never! I shall take a mistress!"
Tongue-in-cheek question: if this is the continental example, does that mean Fredersdorf is "Mike" when Fritz is talking? ;)
Fritz to AW in 1741, before his first battle: "Take care of Algarotti, and let not poor Michael starve?" ;)
« Non, j’aurai des maitresses! because George II was, when it came down to it, a Gerrman prince, not an English one. Naturally, he spoke French to his dying wife. Whereas his (British) envoys are among the very few who write in their native language (Dickens and Mitchell both write in English, the Hannover Hofrat wrote in French). Seriously though, that's the first endearing thing I've come across from one of the Hannover Georges preceding and succeeding G3 (who might have gotten bad press from the American colonists and gone mad, but as "Farmer George" managed a couple of nice anecdotes and of course had Alan Bennet to popularize him by play and film.
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Re: Katte - Species Facti 2
Date: 2020-03-23 01:06 am (UTC)And apparently Hahn, overcompensating in the other direction, didn't buy it either. Why is this so hard, people?!
which, well, is not verified by anyone else's description, including hers. (But it's certainly what he would have heard from the SD corner.)
Ooh, yes, that makes sense.
FW wanted his son broken, but he also wanted him shaved and not living in his excrements.
Indeed. One of their long-standing battlegrounds was that Fritz was careless about hygiene, and FW was fastidious about it, not in a foppish kind of way, but in a spic-and-span Prussian soldier kind of way (my sources said soldiers could get beaten if half a button wasn't polished adequately when they appeared for reviews). I've always thought Fritz's lifelong habits of wiping his ink on his sleeves and basically flouring himself with Spanish snuff might go back a teeeensy bit to this battle for identity against his father. (Soldiers still had to adhere to military standards, but Fritz does what Fritz wants, or sometimes at least the opposite of what Dad wants.)
But he's still a great primary source, even more so for usually saying where he got his intel from.
We love you, Dickens! (I didn't until now, but my inner historiographer now knows that I love you!)
"Take care of Portsmouth, and let not poor Nelly starve."
I had forgotten this quote if I learned it (and I feel like I probably did, since I did read accounts of his deathbed scene). Tongue-in-cheek question: if this is the continental example, does that mean Fredersdorf is "Mike" when Fritz is talking? ;)
Re: Katte - Species Facti 2
Date: 2020-03-23 02:24 pm (UTC)In the (rather good) miniseries about him, which you should see in the European version ("Charles II: The Power and the Passion"), since the American ("The Last King") one got trimmed down and censored severely, making mincemeat of some of the political plots and character motivations, the scriptwriters used the line but changed "Portsmouth" to "Louise", since they figured a modern audience would wonder what Charles has against Southhampton and Plymouth that he doesn't name them as well, according to the audio commentary. ;)
Talking of dying British monarch's, SD's brother G2 might have been unwilling to do anything for his nephew (and niece!), but the story of how he responded when his dying wife Caroline told him that she doesn't want him to be alone, he should marry again, is endearing and very 18th century: "Never! I shall take a mistress!"
Tongue-in-cheek question: if this is the continental example, does that mean Fredersdorf is "Mike" when Fritz is talking? ;)
Fritz to AW in 1741, before his first battle: "Take care of Algarotti, and let not poor Michael starve?" ;)
Re: Katte - Species Facti 2
Date: 2020-03-23 07:35 pm (UTC)Ha! That is endearing and very 18th century.
Fritz to AW in 1741, before his first battle: "Take care of Algarotti, and let not poor Michael starve?" ;)
Love it!
Re: Katte - Species Facti 2
Date: 2020-03-24 04:58 am (UTC)Re: Katte - Species Facti 2
Date: 2020-03-25 04:58 am (UTC)