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All Yuletide requests are out!

Yuletide related:
-it is sad that I can't watch opera quickly enough these days to have offered any of them, these requests are delightful!

-That is... sure a lot of prompts for MCS/Jingyan. But happily some that are not :D (I like MCS/Jingyan! But there are So Many Other characters!)

Frederician-specific:
-I am so excited someone requested Fritz/Voltaire, please someone write it!!

-I also really want someone to write that request for Poniatowski, although that is... definitely a niche request, even for this niche fandom. But he has memoirs?? apparently they are translated from Polish into French

-But while we are waiting/writing/etc., check out this crack commentfic where Heinrich and Franz Stefan are drinking together while Maria Theresia and Frederick the Great have their secret summit, which turns into a plot to marry the future Emperor Joseph to Fritz...

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From:

selenak

:) Glad you like. When I read about this interlude, I knew I had to share the goods. Including some original quotes, like Heinrich‘s attempt to persuade Fritz to join the Wusterhausen trip after all. I mean. Yeah. What you said.

Re: Amalie, my guess is she probably was more discreet around Big Bro most of the time regarding her feelings about their mother. Of course, it‘s worth considering that as the sole unmarried sister and the second youngest child overall (Ferdinand being the youngest), she was simultanously the daughter who lived with SD the longest (as she didn‘t marry), and was least exposed to FW (due to being a daughter as well as a child when he died).

(The strict gender divide in the „who was worst?“ fight confirms all my theories, too.)

Incidentally, the letters from Fritz to Wilhelmine from the early 1730s that I‘ve heard contain a criticism of their mother, but it‘s the only one I‘ve heard/read from him. To wit: „Our most gracious sovereign and queen are competing in ill temper, and one cannot make one happy without agrieving the other.“ (I‘m tempted to assume Wilhelmine‘s reaction to reading this was „this is not news!“

Gustav‘s comment on this summary of his demise: And that‘s why I‘m the only one in this music loving family whom an entire Verdi opera has been written about. No, Uncle Fritz, Don Carlo doesn‘t count. Un Ballo di Mascera rules! As patron and builder of Stockholm‘s opera, I approve.

Cahn, do link Mildred to some appropriate arias or at least your reviews. :)

But seriously, if Fritz and Heinrich agree on something, and go to some effort to doubletag their nephew in order to talk sense into him, it really is better to listen.

From:

mildred_of_midgard

Of course, it‘s worth considering that as the sole unmarried sister and the second youngest child overall (Ferdinand being the youngest), she was simultanously the daughter who lived with SD the longest (as she didn‘t marry), and was least exposed to FW (due to being a daughter as well as a child when he died).

That definitely makes sense.

(I‘m tempted to assume Wilhelmine‘s reaction to reading this was „this is not news!“

"Welcome to my life!"

From:

mildred_of_midgard

Also, how much hassle would it be for you to scan and upload the page(s) containing the family reunion? If too much, then no worries, but I wouldn't mind having a copy.

From:

selenak

I'll try, but I can't promise anything, I have to be careful not to break any spines. I'll message you if I succeed.

From:

mildred_of_midgard

Thank you! What I ended up doing with the Lady Mary/Algarotti letters was holding the book open with one hand, so one side of the book is lying flat and the other sticking straight into the air, at a 90 degree angle, and taking a picture of the flat bit with my phoe. It resulted in some wavy and slanted text, but readable, and didn't bend the spine, compared to pressing it flat in a scanner.

From:

selenak

Success! I managed a decent jpeg scan and afterwards marked the particularly relevant passages for you:

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ETA: incidentally, if anyone is wondering, Amalie and Heinrich made up, they did see each other (and talked to each other) again. Also, by now I know Amalie had an argument with SD just a day before SD's death which ended with SD refusing to let Amalie kiss her hand when parting (which apparantly was how you said goodbye to Mom even in old age) and did not talk to her, so, really bad feelings.

Edited Date: 2019-11-30 05:01 pm (UTC)