Yuletide tags are out: Frederician version

[cahn]

Come join us in this crazy Frederick the Great fandom and learn more about all these crazy associated people, like the star-crossed and heartbreaking romance between Maria Theresia's daughter Maria Christina and her daughter-in-law Isabella, wow.

OK, so, there are FOURTEEN characters nominated:
Anna Karolina Orzelska (Frederician RPF)
Elisabeth Christine von Preußen | Elisabeth Christine Queen of Prussia (Frederician RPF)
Francesco Algarotti (Frederician RPF)
François-Marie Arouet | Voltaire (Frederician RPF)
Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great (Frederician RPF)
Hans Hermann Von Katte (Frederician RPF)
Joseph II Holy Roman Emperor (Frederician RPF)
Maria Theresia | Maria Theresa of Austria (Frederician RPF)
Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf (Frederician RPF)
Peter Karl Christoph von Keith (Frederician RPF)
Sophia Dorothea of Hanover (Frederician RPF)
Stanisław August Poniatowski (Frederician RPF)
Wilhelmine von Preußen | Wilhelmine of Prussia (1709-1758) (Frederician RPF)
Yekatarina II Alekseyevna | Catherine the Great of Russia (Frederician RPF)

This means some fourth person kindly nominated Algarotti and -- I think? -- Stanislaw August Poniatowski! YAY! Thank you fourth person! Come be our friend! :D Yuletide is so great!

I am definitely requesting Maria Theresia, Wilhelmine, and Fritz (Put them in a room together. Shake. How big is the explosion?), and thinking about Elisabeth Christine, but maybe not this year.

I am also declaring this post another Frederician post, as the last one was getting out of hand. I think I'll still use that one as the overall index to these, though, to keep all the links in one place.

(seriously, every time I think the wild stories are done there is ANOTHER one)

Comments

Heinrich's love life

[selenak]

He does indeed. Without having read the Eva Z. biography yet, German language internet tells me this about Heinrich's known love interest:

Marwitz the hot page: frustrating, no one ever mentions a first name. Was probably related to Marwitz the cheating lady-in-waiting, though whether as cousin or brother, no one mentions.

Mara the sexy violinist: already covered in my post about Gertrud Elisabeth Schmeling Mara.

Christian Ludwig von Kaphengst: described by Thibault in his memoirs as tall (Heinrich, like his father and brother, really wasn't), cheerful, witty and courageous, but also an incorrigble spendrift. (Like Mara the sexy violinist.) Heinrich gave him Schloß Meseberg - which today is used by our government to host guests of state in - and had to sell 29 paintings from his personal collection to Catherine in Russia in order to get the cash. Kaphengst wanted a promotion in the army, and Fritz bluntly refused to grant it, whereupon Kaphengst quit the army and got into more debts, so much so that he pawned his entire estates, and in 1784 Heinrich had to apply for a loan in France (aka the least financially solvent state in Europe) to bail him and the estates out, with Louis XVI. personally acting as guarantee for Heinrich's ability to keep his word. Heinrich got the money and covered the bail, but then also finally called it quits with Kaphengst.

(Catherine: I would never do that for my boy toys. Men are just too emotional to rule.)

In conclusion, I hope that to be read biography tells me at least one of Heinrich's guys was a bit more deserving and not mainly in it for the money, because otherwise this is depressing.

(Hey, here's a possibility for the incest shippers - Heinrich/Fritz hate sex?)

Re: Heinrich's love life

[cahn]

(Catherine: I would never do that for my boy toys. Men are just too emotional to rule.)

lol, I LOVE CATHERINE

Re: Heinrich's love life

[mildred_of_midgard]

Marwitz the hot page: frustrating, no one ever mentions a first name. Was probably related to Marwitz the cheating lady-in-waiting, though whether as cousin or brother, no one mentions.

Marwitzes : Hohenzollerns :: matter : antimatter

What little I know of Heinrich's love affairs is that Fritz was periodically having to give him money/aid to bail him out of situations like this. At one point Fritz said his occasional help with Heinrich's eventful love affairs was the only reason Heinrich was not defecting to Austria on the spot speaking to Fritz at all.

Also, I gather Fritz was kind of eyerolly about the love affairs. "See, I'm not a man-whore, like some people I could mention. Or a whore-whore, Catherine."

Fritz: *dies alone*

Hate sex isn't my thing personally, but I can't deny the abundance of opportunity here!

Re: Heinrich's love life

[cahn]

I like hate sex myself, but I think I feel too bad for Heinrich to really go for it.

Fritz/Voltaire, where I kind of don't feel bad for either of them, I'm up for that :) (I suppose that would be less hate sex than... snarky sex?)

Re: Heinrich's love life

[mildred_of_midgard]

Fritz/Voltaire snark sex would be awesome. Also, they could maybe even get an exception from me about hate sex, mostly because it wasn't pure hate and they were really frenemies, and they'd been friends first. Actually, I think I would enjoy a dynamic where they'd been having sex before their falling-out, or at least flirting pretty damn hard, and then after the falling-out had at least one really intense sexual encounter full of passionate hate, snark, resentment, and "Where did our love go?" mutual disappointment.

...Okay, now I want someone to write that.

Fritz/Voltaire

[cahn]

Oh yeah, I absolutely want Fritz/Voltaire snark, hatesex or otherwise :D Ahhhhhh it's too bad Yuletide doesn't let you request the same fandom twice!

Re: Fritz/Voltaire

[mildred_of_midgard]

IKR? I've been thinking that since this started. I would have signed up if I could have requested and offered different subsets of Frederician characters.

Oh, well. It's fun prompting each other and outlining fic ideas here. :D

Re: Fritz/Voltaire

[mildred_of_midgard]

You know, since treats are a thing, and you have a blanket "crackfic involving any of these characters" prompt already, maybe you could add that you'd be happy to receive treats for other characters that the limitations of Yuletide didn't allow you to formally request? I think that'd be fine? Since you've already got loads of prompts for the characters you did request. And then you could throw in a Fritz/Voltaire pairing to your increasingly long list of Frederician prompts. ;)

ETA: mods have confirmed this is fine! There was a suggestion not to have your treat prompts outnumber requested character prompts, but everyone agreed non-requested-character treat prompts are totally kosher.

Me: Dooo eeeet!

ETA 2: You may already know this, but the mods have added that if you're okay with getting a subset of your nominated characters, this must be in your sign-up, not just your letter. Otherwise it causes them headaches when trying to decide if a submitted story meets the requirements or not.

Re: Fritz/Voltaire

[cahn]

LOL, okay, I added that stricture in. Don't want it for my assignment, but if anyone wants to write me Fritz-Voltaire hatesex for a treat, I am not gonna say no to that. I mean, not that I know anyone who would do that :PPPPPP

And, yep, I did know that, thanks. I think I said this in previous comment -- I do actually want all nommed characters but I put in both letter and signup that it's OK if they don't all show up in person, just in thought/memory/discussion, since e.g. Wilhelmine might be dead by the time the summit actually happens.

Re: Fritz/Voltaire

[mildred_of_midgard]

Right, that makes sense.

I mean, not that I know anyone who would do that :PPPPPP

Who would do such a thing???? I can't imagine.

I mean, I don't have any inspiration at the moment, so I'm not planning to, but you know if that changes, then you'll have an interesting totally anonymous surprise on Dec 25. :PPP

Re: Fritz/Voltaire

[cahn]

Or MissM will! :D I am SO EXCITED that someone prompted Fritz/Voltaire!

Re: Fritz/Voltaire

[mildred_of_midgard]

Yay, now any fics will really be anonymous! Lol at her prompt, though:

it's so delightfully funny and non-tragic...

Me: Really? I think it's kind of sad that two of the great minds of the 18th century were so emotionally immature-

...compared to the doomed romance of Friedrich/Katte.

Me: Well, yes, now that you compare it to Fritz/Katte, it's pretty damn light-hearted and consequence-free! Frankfurt was nothing next to Küstrin.

I'm also laughing at her "Would prefer something light-hearted here" and your "snarky hatesex." Light-hearted snarky hatesex FTW! :D

Re: Fritz/Voltaire

[cahn]

Hee! Honestly, I think any Fritz/Voltaire would actually be in the lighthearted vein, even hatesex :D I mean, it's sad they were both so immature, but it's... kind of hilarious to watch?

Re: Fritz/Voltaire

[mildred_of_midgard]

You know, it's not that I don't get the hilarity and schadenfreude and total popcorn-munching aspects of their frenemy disaster, because I do. I think it's just that my fix-it instincts in this fandom are so strong that the part where it parses as a tragedy to me is a wee bit stronger, or at least strong enough to interfere with the enjoyment. :/

I mean, you're talking to someone whose current OT3 is fix-all-the-things Fritz/Katte/Keith. :P

But if someone writes Fritz/Voltaire, I will read the heck out of it and bring the popcorn!