No, I think she only got disinherited from Grandma's fortune, not what I assume is her other parent's fortune. And since Marschall von Bieberstein died, it's not clear to me that Grandma even managed to disinherit her.
Did a little detective work:
Melchior Friedrich Philipp du Rosey (1699-1744) married Marie Katharina von Schlieben (1698-1738), and their daughter was Catherine du Rosey (1738-1813).
Marie Katherina was a widow, and her son from her first marriage was the Marschall von Bieberstein, half-brother of Catherine du Rosey, who died too soon to name Lehndorff in his will.
Marie Katherina was the daughter of Johann Friedrich von Schlieben (1630-1696) and Katharina von Dönhoff (1669-1752). Katharina von Dönhoff is Grandma, and after her husband died, she married Dietrich von Tettau (d. 1730).
Stepmom is Amalie Juliane von Dönhoff (1714-1760). So Grandma and Stepmom are somehow related. Also, Schlieben's first wife is *also* a von Dönhoff, Juliane.
But a little digging isn't showing me how the three von Dönhoff women are related, so I'm going to say distantly. (It would have been interesting and perhaps telling if Grandma and Stepmom had independent family history!)
In conclusion, Grandma is a von Dönhoff, mother of Catherine du Rosey's mother, and Catherine's father is a du Rosey, so Ludolf definitely gets the du Rosey inheritance, and maybe the von Dönhoff inheritance.
Lehndorff is related to the von Dönhoff line, through his father.
Every time we really get into 18th century nobility history, it feels so eerie, because so many of these names show up in the 20th century again. Marion Countess Dönhoff was one of the most famous German women in the 20th century - as a young woman, she was pals with many of the July 20th 1944 conspirators, and later, she became Editor of "Die Zeit", the first female manager of a major newspaper - basically, like Katherine Graham with the Washington Post.
BTW, isn't Lehndorff also related to von Schlieben line - I think one of his sisters married a von Schlieben, something like this, because he later has a Schlieben niece?
BTW, isn't Lehndorff also related to von Schlieben line - I think one of his sisters married a von Schlieben, something like this, because he later has a Schlieben niece?
Good memory! Looks like his sister Marie Eleanore married Karl Leopold von Schlieben in 1747.
Btw, looking at the dates, Grandma von Tettau was 80 the year of the first proposal, and 82/3 when she died, so pretty elderly for her time! No wonder she didn't expect to live two or three more years in 1749.
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Re: Lehndorff's one who got away
Date: 2025-01-12 01:48 pm (UTC)Did a little detective work:
Melchior Friedrich Philipp du Rosey (1699-1744) married Marie Katharina von Schlieben (1698-1738), and their daughter was Catherine du Rosey (1738-1813).
Marie Katherina was a widow, and her son from her first marriage was the Marschall von Bieberstein, half-brother of Catherine du Rosey, who died too soon to name Lehndorff in his will.
Marie Katherina was the daughter of Johann Friedrich von Schlieben (1630-1696) and Katharina von Dönhoff (1669-1752). Katharina von Dönhoff is Grandma, and after her husband died, she married Dietrich von Tettau (d. 1730).
Stepmom is Amalie Juliane von Dönhoff (1714-1760). So Grandma and Stepmom are somehow related. Also, Schlieben's first wife is *also* a von Dönhoff, Juliane.
But a little digging isn't showing me how the three von Dönhoff women are related, so I'm going to say distantly. (It would have been interesting and perhaps telling if Grandma and Stepmom had independent family history!)
In conclusion, Grandma is a von Dönhoff, mother of Catherine du Rosey's mother, and Catherine's father is a du Rosey, so Ludolf definitely gets the du Rosey inheritance, and maybe the von Dönhoff inheritance.
Lehndorff is related to the von Dönhoff line, through his father.
Re: Lehndorff's one who got away
Date: 2025-01-12 02:24 pm (UTC)BTW, isn't Lehndorff also related to von Schlieben line - I think one of his sisters married a von Schlieben, something like this, because he later has a Schlieben niece?
Re: Lehndorff's one who got away
Date: 2025-01-12 05:19 pm (UTC)BTW, isn't Lehndorff also related to von Schlieben line - I think one of his sisters married a von Schlieben, something like this, because he later has a Schlieben niece?
Good memory! Looks like his sister Marie Eleanore married Karl Leopold von Schlieben in 1747.
Btw, looking at the dates, Grandma von Tettau was 80 the year of the first proposal, and 82/3 when she died, so pretty elderly for her time! No wonder she didn't expect to live two or three more years in 1749.