Historical Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 48

[cahn]

Some awesome historical RPF candyheartsex stories for meeeeee (or by me, in one tiny case) with historical characters! I'm just going to note whom the stories are about here. They are all so good!!

Anne Boleyn/Catherine of Aragorn
Frances Howard and Frances Coke (or: James I's court was basically a HOTBED of scandal, omg)

And two that are also historical RPF but also consistent with the Jude Morgan novel The King's Touch, which is an excellent historical novel narrated by James ("Jemmy") Scott, Duke of Monmouth, Charles II's illegitimate son.

Princess Henrietta of England (Charles II's sister and wife of Philippe I duc d'Orleans)
James of Monmouth/William/Mary

Comments

Re: Fritz of Wales to G3

[cahn]

Ha, well, I appreciate your being as fair even to FW as possible :P

On a related note: arguably FW's (in)famous remark to Fritz that if his father had ever treated him the way he, FW, was treating Fritz, he'd have killed himself, is of course in itself telling: F1 (son of a harsh Dad who increasingly loathed him) would never have treated FW this way.

:( Poor Fritz.

Re: Fritz of Wales to G3

[selenak]

No kidding. Also, before Mildred says it: when considering why FW found it easier to practice the „sons must always put their Dad‘s wishes first“ doctrine even when he was the son while cousin G2 did not and openly declared „Dads are always in the right, except mine!“, one should look at their respective father‘s type of parenting. G1 started out being distant to G2 during G2‘s childhood, and it went downwards from there, even disregarding the part where G2s and SD‘s mother gets locked up during their childhood by their Dad. Infamously, G1 after the big argument with (future) G2 apropos the godfather he imposed on G2‘s latest kid which led to a public spectacle of G2 refusing said Godfather in the church itself didn‘t just kick G2 and Caroline out of the palace, he took their (non Fritz of Wales) kids away from them and punished Caroline along with (future)G2 for being a loyal wife to G2 by forbidding her access to her kids as well for a good while. Meanwhile, F1: doesn‘t come across as a hands-on Dad in that we don‘t get reports about him hanging out with FW a lot during FW‘s childhood (it‘s SC who is arguing and fretting about teachers and FW‘s (lack of) learning and making him do ballet etc., but what paternal actions are recorded, like giving 12 years old FW Wusterhausen as his personal estate to do with what he wants are benevolent, his not wanting FW to go campaigning in the War of the Spanish Succession comes across as fear for FW‘s life in his letters to Sophie, and he certainly does not make an attempt to keep FW and SD from their babies for the few years his own life overlaps with that of his grandkids. It‘s far easier to be obedient towards a father who is kind to you and doesn‘t try to make you his replica. (Sidenote: except for the part where F1 made FW wear an exact copy of the Dauphin‘s wedding outfit for his marriage to SD as we know from the Hohenzollern letters to Sophie. Bet FW hated that. But it‘s still not the same as what G1 did to G2.)

Re: Fritz of Wales to G3

[cahn]

Ah, right! Ugh, G1 :(

except for the part where F1 made FW wear an exact copy of the Dauphin‘s wedding outfit for his marriage to SD

Heeee. Yes, not really the same :P (But I'm going to laugh at it.)