Historical Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 45

[cahn]

Unfortunately, there was then at Berlin a King who pursued one policy only, who deceived his enemies, but not his servants, and who lied without scruple, but never without necessity.

(from The King's Secret - by Duke de Broglie, grand-nephew of the subject of the book, Comte de Broglie, and grandfather of the physicist) )

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Re: Danish archives

[luzula]

I also hope getting familiarity with archives is cool for you and maybe even useful to your own research someday! The British archives I've looked at are roughly comparable to the Danish royal archives, so if you ever end up looking into unpublished Jacobite material, or, idk, doing your family history in Sweden*, or something, you will have relevant experience.
There is one thing I've been curious about, which is: a fair number of Jacobite refugees came to Gothenburg (my home town) after Culloden, where they got a lot of help from a merchant called Peter Samuelsson Bagge (he was associated with the Hats, the French-leaning party). When I was a kid, my family rented half of a big house owned by people named Bagge. So of course it has led me to wonder whether these Bagges were related, and if so, how many degrees of separation I am from those Jacobite refugees! The Bagge who owned that house died fairly recently at almost the age of 100. Incidentally, one of his sons is a musician who often performs the songs of Carl Michael Bellman (the most well-known songwriter of 18th century Sweden).

Re: Jacobite material, I do really wish that some of the women involved in the ’45 had written memoirs! Margaret Ogilvy, for example. I wonder if there might be unpublished material by female Jacobites in archives somewhere…

Re: Danish archives

[mildred_of_midgard]

So of course it has led me to wonder whether these Bagges were related, and if so, how many degrees of separation I am from those Jacobite refugees!

Oh, interesting! Do you have an Ancestry.com account?

Re: Jacobite material, I do really wish that some of the women involved in the ’45 had written memoirs! Margaret Ogilvy, for example. I wonder if there might be unpublished material by female Jacobites in archives somewhere…

There might be! But if they're in British archives, your future self's hands-on experience in reading rooms will come in handy, because British archives *also* charge you an arm and a leg, in my experience.

If you make a list of these women and which, if any of them, ended up in exile abroad, I'll keep an eye out!