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Last post, along with the usual 18th-century suspects, included the Ottonians; changing ideas of conception and women's sexual pleasure; Isabella of Parma (the one who fell in love, and vice versa, with her husband's sister); Henry IV and Bertha (and Henry's second wife divorcing him for "unspeakable sexual acts"). (Okay, Isabella of Parma was 18th century.)

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luzula

Ha ha, wow, I LOVE that song. *g*

Re: George I and whether he favored the Whigs or not, Szechi seems well positioned to know, since he wrote a book called Jacobitism and Tory Politics, 1710-14? This is how he describes it: the future George I had been careful to maintain a friendly demeanor towards the both the Whigs and the Tories until 1712. But after that time, the influential Tory the Earl of Oxford sold out the interests of Britain's continental allies, as the price of a favorable separate peace for Britain with France. Obviously the future George I was not happy about that and took a stand, but he did so in a temperate fashion and tried to maintain lines of communication with both parties. But the political climate in Britain was very polarized and this antagonized the Tories, while the Whigs worked hard to ingratiate themselves. When George I succeeded to the throne, he did not wholeheartedly accept the Whigs' claim to be the only friends he had and he tried to bring into office Tories who had overtly maintain their commitment to the Hanoverian succession. But these Tories didn't want to be separated from the rest of their party. So he turned to the Whigs, who then purged every level of government and installed their own people (as the Tories had done in 1710). After that the Tories hoped to secure a majority in the Commons in the next election, but at that point the king did throw his support behind the Whigs. This led many Tories to look to Jacobitism.

ETA: Er, I see my phrasing in the original comment does not really do justice to what the book said...

Edited Date: 2022-12-03 01:23 pm (UTC)

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mildred_of_midgard

Ah, thank you for the details! That seems more or less in line with what Black said, but I can see where a complex and nuanced situation like that would lead Hatton to place more emphasis on his willingness to work with both Tories and Whigs, not just Whigs.