18th-Century Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 38

[cahn]

Gonna go ahead and make this post even though Yuletide is coming...

But in the meantime, there has been some fic in the fandom posted!

Holding His Space (2503 words) by felisnocturna
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: 18th Century CE RPF, 18th Century CE Frederician RPF
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Relationships: Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf/Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
Characters: Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf, Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great
Additional Tags: Protectiveness, Domestic, Character Study
Summary:

Five times Fredersdorf has to stay behind - and one time Friedrich doesn't leave.

Using People (3392 words) by prinzsorgenfrei
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: 18th Century CE RPF
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great/Hans Hermann von Katte
Characters: Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great, Hans Hermann von Katte
Additional Tags: Fluff, Idiots in Love, reading plays aloud while gazing into each others eyes
Summary:

Friedrich had started to talk to him because he had thought of him as a bit of a ditz.
And now here he was. Here he was months later, bundled up in this very same man’s blankets with a cup of hot coffee in front of him, its scent mixing with that of Katte’s French perfume.
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Fluffy One Shot about one traitorous Crown Prince and the sycophant he accidentally fell for.

Comments

Re: The Ottonians

[cahn]

Imagine the new guy shows up with a letter signed by "Charles the Fat, by the skin of my teeth, still King of East Francia."

Okay, I actually laughed out loud at this :D

Re: The Ottonians

[selenak]

Same here!

Re: The Ottonians

[mildred_of_midgard]

That's why I had to share it! It's also wonderfully mnemonic for 9th century Carolingian developments. I, for one, will now never forget the social process by which counts became hereditary nobility.

Re: The Ottonians

[mildred_of_midgard]

By the way, in case you don't know, Charles the Fat is what historians call Charles III, late 9th century Carolingian king.

Per Wikipedia,

The nickname "Charles the Fat" (Latin Carolus Crassus) is not contemporary. It was first used by the Annalista Saxo (the anonymous "Saxon Annalist") in the twelfth century. There is no contemporary reference to Charles's physical size, but the nickname has stuck and is the common name in most modern European languages (French Charles le Gros, German Karl der Dicke, Italian Carlo il Grosso).

So it's not something the podcaster is making up (but he is definitely deploying it strategically for humorous purposes).

Re: The Ottonians

[cahn]

I had heard the name before, but did not know who it was!

Re: The Ottonians

[mildred_of_midgard]

Clearly I am very bad at predicting what I need to spell out for you! (I second-guessed myself on that one and decided to spell it out just in case.)

Me: Everyone knows Aachen = Aix-la-Chapelle! But Silvester II is some terribly obscure figure no one (except Selena) has ever heard of.

Cahn: Wrong and wrong!

:D

Re: The Ottonians

[cahn]

Well, I mean, I didn't remember that Gerbert d'Aurillac was the same guy as Sylvester II, nor that this book I had read about him existed (and therefore I didn't remember this guy at all except "huh that name sounds very vaguely familiar but I don't know why and maybe it's just because he has the same or a similar name to someone else in this fandom, because everyone does") until I got to the end of your writeup where you were like "and then he became Pope Silvester II" and I was like, waaaaaaait a minute! So yeah, it is both true that a) you had to spell it out for me and b) I had heard of him :D