18th-Century Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 36

[cahn]

Starting a couple of comments earlier than usual to mention there are a couple of new salon fics! These probably both need canon knowledge.

felis ficlets on siblings!

Siblings (541 words) by felisnocturna
Chapters: 2/2
Fandom: 18th Century CE RPF
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Characters: Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great, Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf, August Wilhelm von Preußen | Augustus William of Prussia (1722-1758), Wilhelmine von Preußen | Wilhelmine of Prussia (1709-1758)
Summary:

Three Fills for the 2022 Three Sentence Ficathon.

Chapter One: Protective Action / Babysitting at Rheinsberg (Frederick/Fredersdorf, William+Henry+Ferdinand)
Chapter Two: Here Be Lions (Wilhelmine)

Unsent Letters fic by me:

Letters for a Dead King (1981 words) by raspberryhunter
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: 18th Century CE RPF
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Friedrich II von Preußen | Frederick the Great & Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig von Preußen (1726-1802)
Characters: Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig von Preußen | Henry of Prussia (1726-1802)
Additional Tags: Epistolary, Love/Hate, Talking To Dead People, Canonical Character Death, Dysfunctional Family
Summary:

Just because one's king and brother is dead doesn't mean one has to stop writing to him.

Comments

Re: Lehndorff

[selenak]

So first there was another excerpt from an entry with no context, meaning I had to go back to volume 1 again to see what he was talking about. (Did you notice this when you were reading, Selena?)

Now and then.

Anyway, I am surprised that Heinrich, who can cure headaches by his very existence, isn't able to comfort Lehndorff when the Countess Bentinck is.

Perhaps because Lehndorff isn't in love with the Countess. At this point (1753), he's still hoping for an exclusive relationship with Heinrich, after all, and constantly switching between the ecstasy of love and the misery of jealousy. On the one hand, Heinrich visiting him to comfort and cheer him up proves he cares, otoh, maybe Heinrich casually mentions one of the other guys, or maybe he's not even alone?

Anyway, between Lehndorff's admiration, Sophie/future Catherine crushing on her as a teenager and Voltaire admiring her, Countess Bentinck must have been great company.

Topic: The problem is that Staatsminister didn't tell enough stories about Hans Hermann, or told too many stories about Hans Hermann and not enough about the real hero of 1730? Discuss. :P [

LOL. I can see either possibility. Though to be fair, even with Lehndorff being TEAM KEITH, I think his general interest in anecdotes and recent history would ensure he'd find stories about Hans Hermann interesting, if only for the Fritz connection. I mean, this is Lehndorff, who does note Fritz related tales down even if Heinrich isn't involved as well (as with Marwitz), see also Glasow or Fritz' first meeting with Henri de Catt. So would guess if the Staatsminister told any Hans Herrmann stories, he would have joted down at least some of them.

Counter suggestion: maybe the Staatsminister told Lehndorff all about the impending marital bliss of his cousin Ludolf with Demoiselle du Rosey?

Re: Lehndorff

[mildred_of_midgard]

Perhaps because Lehndorff isn't in love with the Countess...otoh, maybe Heinrich casually mentions one of the other guys, or maybe he's not even alone?

Yeah, that had occurred to me, given all the jealousy passages.

Anyway, between Lehndorff's admiration, Sophie/future Catherine crushing on her as a teenager and Voltaire admiring her, Countess Bentinck must have been great company.

Indeed!

So would guess if the Staatsminister told any Hans Herrmann stories, he would have joted down at least some of them.

Fair!

Counter suggestion: maybe the Staatsminister told Lehndorff all about the impending marital bliss of his cousin Ludolf with Demoiselle du Rosey?

OH NOES. Lol.

Re: Lehndorff

[cahn]

Perhaps because Lehndorff isn't in love with the Countess. At this point (1753), he's still hoping for an exclusive relationship with Heinrich, after all, and constantly switching between the ecstasy of love and the misery of jealousy.

Ah, this makes a lot of sense!

On the one hand, Heinrich visiting him to comfort and cheer him up proves he cares, otoh, maybe Heinrich casually mentions one of the other guys, or maybe he's not even alone?

LOLOLOL omg I could totally see this. DESPAIR!

Re: Lehndorff

[mildred_of_midgard]

Lol, you made me think of Galadriel. "All shall love me and despair!"

Re: Lehndorff

[cahn]

Lehndorff: Well, actually, now that you mention it, Heinrich is totally like Galadriel! All that know him must build altars to him in their hearts!

Re: Lehndorff

[selenak]

Kalckreuth: Well, he certainly diminished and went to the west, that is, Rheinsberg. Which wouldn't have happened if he'd only stuck with me instead of dumping me for bloody Kaphengst.

Mara: If you don't behave like a bastard (eine Canaille) with him, you don't get anywhere with this prince.

Gotthold Ephraim Lessing, philosopher and writer of the Ring parable in "Nathan the Wise", in his youth translator for Voltaire at the Hirschel trial and disillusioned citizen of Prussia: I'm just glad neither Fritz nor Heinrich ever got their hand on the One Ring.

Re: Lehndorff

[mildred_of_midgard]

Allow me to quote your earlier commentary on said scenario:

God knows what Fritz would have one with the one ring, but he certainly wouldn't have been able to keep it unused for years (Tolkien) or even one year (movies) before the quest even starts, and somehow I suspect the Shire would have ended up going toe to toe with Gondor