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1730 Trending Topics: Pragmatic Sanction
Date: 2022-01-01 05:00 pm (UTC)FW: Prussia signed it in 1728 in return for recognition of my Berg claims, which you then promptly granted to the Wittelsbachs. One day, several years from now, fed up with this kind of thing, I will point to my wretched son and say, "There stands one who will avenge me!" (Only not in this AU because wretched son will be safely out of my reach by 1736.)
Isabella: Signed it in 1725 but you didn't agree to marry my son Don Carlos to your daughter MT, you bastard!
France: Pragmatic Sanction signing over my dead body! Wittelsbachs, get ready to divvy up some Habsburg territory as soon as the Emperor kicks it.
Great Britain: So, you know, in theory, I have no objection to signing the Pragmatic Sanction.
France: Et tu, Britain.
Great Britain: But it really depends on who her husband is. No marrying her to Don Carlos! Nobody wants Spain and Austria reunited like under Charles V.
Charles VI: Isabella is batshit insane (have you noticed?) and even I don't want to touch that with a ten-foot pole.
Isabella: You don't call it batshit when a man has a cause. You call it heroic!
Charles VI: Wrong! FW. We call him batshit. Check and mate.
Great Britain: Okay, we're getting a little off topic here. G2: But hard agree about FW. Hervey: You're both crazy. No Bourbon marriages, and also no converting Protestant Prussian Crown Princes.
Charles VI: *sigh* Yes, that second thing was not really the plan either. I don't know where you guys get these ideas. She has a husband planned. His name is Franz. He's from Lorraine.
Great Britain: Awesome! So just put in the treaty that our NOTPs are ruled out, and we'll sign your Pragmatic Sanction in early 1731.
Charles VI: Well, but, the problem is, I am an emperor and I do not have my daughter's marriages dictated by foreign powers.
Great Britain: Okay, SECRET ARTICLE ruling out our NOTPs, and we sign your pragmatic sanction.
Charles VI: Face-saving device accepted!
Great Britain: And Spanish garrisons in Parma and Tuscany accepted?
Charles VI: *sigh*
Charles VI: *signs*
Gian Gastone: "And now, with the stroke of a pen, you will see an old man of sixty become the father of a bouncing boy." [Paraphrased actual quote.] No, I was not involved in these negotiations. What, you expected me to go to war with Spain and Austria over who my heir is? Lol. Hi, Don Carlos. Nice to meet you. Have some wine.
Mildred: Note that by the time Gian Gastone dies in 1737, the War of the Polish Succession has changed the plans *again*: Don Carlos gets Naples and Sicily, and FS gets Tuscany.
Re: 1730 Trending Topics: Pragmatic Sanction
Date: 2022-01-02 09:10 am (UTC)Dr. Zimmerman: Why were you like that, GB? You could have prevented the Silesian Wars from ever happening, if you'd just allowed my OTP! Fritz/MT 4eva!
Incidentally, what all of this demonstrates all over again is why Fritz really did not see the Diplomatic Revolution coming and thought he could rely on France hating on the Habsburgs forever.
Re: 1730 Trending Topics: Pragmatic Sanction
Date: 2022-01-03 06:02 am (UTC)Ha, yeah, that's a very good point and that is making more sense to me now! (Or, maybe not more sense exactly, but now I have more context to put it in.)
Re: 1730 Trending Topics: Pragmatic Sanction
Date: 2022-01-03 05:23 am (UTC)Ah! Thank you for this, this is super useful for me to see how stuff I already know fits into these overviews :D
Charles VI: Wrong! FW. We call him batshit. Check and mate.
Heeeee. I do get her point. But also, hee.
Charles VI: *sigh* Yes, that second thing was not really the plan either.
LOLOLOL
Great Britain: Awesome! So just put in the treaty that our NOTPs are ruled out, and we'll sign your Pragmatic Sanction in early 1731.
This is great, fandomspeak for the win :D
Gian Gastone: "And now, with the stroke of a pen, you will see an old man of sixty become the father of a bouncing boy." [Paraphrased actual quote.] No, I was not involved in these negotiations. What, you expected me to go to war with Spain and Austria over who my heir is? Lol. Hi, Don Carlos. Nice to meet you. Have some wine.
Ha, +1 to my comment above about how things fit in. (I remembered the quote and that it had to do with his heir or lack thereof, wouldn't have been able to tell you the context besides that.)
Re: 1730 Trending Topics: Pragmatic Sanction
Date: 2022-01-03 10:13 pm (UTC)Heeeee. I do get her point. But also, hee.
Yeah, she was definitely the victim of sexism, but also she did not make things easy on people.
Ha, +1 to my comment above about how things fit in. (I remembered the quote and that it had to do with his heir or lack thereof, wouldn't have been able to tell you the context besides that.)
Exactly! I'm so pleased we have so much more context now, I can't tell you. Like I used to just know that FS got Tuscany because the Medici were about to die out. But it bugged me to no end, because I couldn't stop thinking, "How did they *know* the Medici were about to die out? Charles VI and Carlos II didn't lose hope until the last minute. Kids can be born even after years of no pregnancies!" And that was when I started looking into that, and then it was like, "Oh. No, no kids are born after years of no pregnancies if one party is perpetually drunk in bed in Florence and the other party has never left Bohemia and never will. So that's how they knew!"
And then I'd been hearing Don Carlos' name periodically, but didn't quite have it clear in my head where he fit in. And now I do!