England: We're thinking Henry VIII. for HRE, mostly because Henry thinks he rocks that much. Also the Pope has just appointed him Defender of the Faith. No more faithful Catholic than Henry, ever! All the titles for Henry!
HAHAHAHAHA omg, especially when paired with
Henry VIII: FINE. Don't blame for the consequences.
LOL FOREVER
New Emperor Charles: Not impressed. Seriously, he wasn't. This particular event is key to Luther's reputation - "here I stand, I can do no other" etc. - but Charles was just, like, meh. I expected more. Possibly one reason why he let Luther go instead of arresting him on the spot, something he would agonize over decades later. Another reason was that Charles was still young enough that having given his word about free passage for Luther meant something to him.
This is a hilariously engaging way of telling the story, but also this is fascinating (my knowledge of the story from Lutherans is, predictably, heavy on Luther and not at all on Charles). Also makes me feel for Charles. I have a huge trope-love for people who keep their word even when it kind of sucks for them.
and touchingly added "and I don't want another son, either" when he was a teenager.
Aww, that's touching! Seems like most people in that era would have wanted another son <3
Seems like generally speaking he treated his illegitimate kids pretty well too. (What happened to his daughter by Germaine de Fox?) Also I got a kick out of his unorthodox love life :D (Also I really like Barbara Blomberg!)
Philip: You're my most feared general and the Dutch are afraid of you - and you can't convince a single woman to retire into a nunnery?
HAHAHAHAHHA okay I burst out laughing here would totally be up for Duke of Alva fic where he gets outmanuevered by Barbara
Also, aww Philip and Barbara :D <3
Juan: I'm telling you yes, because I'm not suicidal and you are famous for your uncertain temper in real life. And then I immediately go and tell half brother Philip. Because guess what? I've sworn my oath to him, he was the one to welcome me into the family, and unlike fictional Rodrigo de Posa, I just like Philip better than you. Sorry. Adios, Carlos.
...ALSO would read this. HA.
(Also I have seen one staging of Verdi which looked not so different from this in the auto-da-fe scene, although mostly I think due to really poor direction plus a lackluster Carlos coupled with Rene Pape as a compelling Philip that did come across as much cooler than Carlos; that would be interesting as an intentional directorial construction, though)
Schiller: They weren't related by blood and only met when he was an impressionable late teen. He grew up with his sister. I'm sure you see the difference.
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Re: Historical background notes for Verdi opera and Schiller play
Date: 2021-05-29 05:09 pm (UTC)England: We're thinking Henry VIII. for HRE, mostly because Henry thinks he rocks that much. Also the Pope has just appointed him Defender of the Faith. No more faithful Catholic than Henry, ever! All the titles for Henry!
HAHAHAHAHA omg, especially when paired with
Henry VIII: FINE. Don't blame for the consequences.
LOL FOREVER
New Emperor Charles: Not impressed. Seriously, he wasn't. This particular event is key to Luther's reputation - "here I stand, I can do no other" etc. - but Charles was just, like, meh. I expected more. Possibly one reason why he let Luther go instead of arresting him on the spot, something he would agonize over decades later. Another reason was that Charles was still young enough that having given his word about free passage for Luther meant something to him.
This is a hilariously engaging way of telling the story, but also this is fascinating (my knowledge of the story from Lutherans is, predictably, heavy on Luther and not at all on Charles). Also makes me feel for Charles. I have a huge trope-love for people who keep their word even when it kind of sucks for them.
and touchingly added "and I don't want another son, either" when he was a teenager.
Aww, that's touching! Seems like most people in that era would have wanted another son <3
Seems like generally speaking he treated his illegitimate kids pretty well too. (What happened to his daughter by Germaine de Fox?) Also I got a kick out of his unorthodox love life :D (Also I really like Barbara Blomberg!)
Philip: You're my most feared general and the Dutch are afraid of you - and you can't convince a single woman to retire into a nunnery?
HAHAHAHAHHA okay I burst out laughing here
would totally be up for Duke of Alva fic where he gets outmanuevered by Barbara
Also, aww Philip and Barbara :D <3
Juan: I'm telling you yes, because I'm not suicidal and you are famous for your uncertain temper in real life. And then I immediately go and tell half brother Philip. Because guess what? I've sworn my oath to him, he was the one to welcome me into the family, and unlike fictional Rodrigo de Posa, I just like Philip better than you. Sorry. Adios, Carlos.
...ALSO would read this. HA.
(Also I have seen one staging of Verdi which looked not so different from this in the auto-da-fe scene, although mostly I think due to really poor direction plus a lackluster Carlos coupled with Rene Pape as a compelling Philip that did come across as much cooler than Carlos; that would be interesting as an intentional directorial construction, though)
Schiller: They weren't related by blood and only met when he was an impressionable late teen. He grew up with his sister. I'm sure you see the difference.
*blinks*
:D