I continue to be amazed and awed at the free tuition offered at this university, I mean in this fandom. :D
which means the occasional blip like poor Gundling still showing up as the court fool made head of the academy.
So many of my modern sources do that if not for you, I wouldn't know any better!
Sir not appearing in either volume at all (seriously, no single mention, not even in the footnotes): Suhm. Seriously, Bronisch not only apparantly had zero interest in the other Saxon envoy but doesn't think he's a factor in any way in his subject.
Suhm, certainly not relevant to Saxon enovys trying to win Fritz over to Wolff. I mean, what. Especially since you found out later that he's aware of Fritz. Sigh.
Fritz even told Wilhelmine he was studying philosophy with La Chetardie and Suhm in Berlin, in March 1736, and that it was normally Suhm and occasionally Chetardie!
Oh well.
Ah, I see. That's why he doesn't mention Suhm, he's a shipper, too. :P
Yes, yes, this makes perfect sense. It's like the slash fics that go, "Wife/girlfriend? What wife/girlfriend?" Only in this case, it's "Other erastes? What other erastes?" :PPP
he remained a very handsome figure of a man into his old age, too. (So Formey writes not just immediately after Manteuffel died but also recalling him many years later.) In short, which isn't as Bronish puts it, when Crown Prince Fritz is on the prowl for sugar daddies in the 1730s, Manteuffel really was a great candidate.
Uh huh. Anyway, this is really interesting, because when we first encountered Fritz showing all possible tendernesses to him circa 1736, Selena wondered if that meant sex. And my first response was, "Not to be ageist, but he is 60, and it is the 18th century, so he might not have had all that much sex appeal..." but clearly Formey is here to tell me otherwise!
Bronisch scoffs at Nicolai's anecdote as an explanation as to why Fritz called his own philosophical summer retreat the same name, pointing out that Manteuffel in a letter to Fritz even refers to his visitors as "his knights of Sanssouci" and that freaking FW visited for two days there in 1731, so there's no way Fritz was unaware of the precedent. To which I say, that doesn't mean he didn't mean the grave pun as well.
Bronisch, maybe he heard the name and it SPOKE TO HIM, because he had all these psychological issues, omg.
Guess what happened to the originals? WWII.
ARGH. This keeps happening to us!
Explanation for nickname: it's complicated.
I actually knew this, thanks to MacDonogh! But he doesn't give our sources for it, so that's a nice addition.
(Short version: it's a huge crowd, Augustus is about to fell a bad sentence which could have resulted with him gaining a tyrant's reputation, Maecenas raises a writing tablet with the words "surge, carnifex!", Augustus sees it and desists) (The who is who casting is obvious without Manteuffel spelling it out.)
A classical anecdote I didn't know, thank you! And yes, obvious parallelism is obvious.
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Re: His name is Diable. Le Diable: Good Times
Date: 2021-03-05 10:12 pm (UTC)which means the occasional blip like poor Gundling still showing up as the court fool made head of the academy.
So many of my modern sources do that if not for you, I wouldn't know any better!
Sir not appearing in either volume at all (seriously, no single mention, not even in the footnotes): Suhm. Seriously, Bronisch not only apparantly had zero interest in the other Saxon envoy but doesn't think he's a factor in any way in his subject.
Suhm, certainly not relevant to Saxon enovys trying to win Fritz over to Wolff. I mean, what. Especially since you found out later that he's aware of Fritz. Sigh.
Fritz even told Wilhelmine he was studying philosophy with La Chetardie and Suhm in Berlin, in March 1736, and that it was normally Suhm and occasionally Chetardie!
Oh well.
Ah, I see. That's why he doesn't mention Suhm, he's a shipper, too. :P
Yes, yes, this makes perfect sense. It's like the slash fics that go, "Wife/girlfriend? What wife/girlfriend?" Only in this case, it's "Other erastes? What other erastes?" :PPP
he remained a very handsome figure of a man into his old age, too. (So Formey writes not just immediately after Manteuffel died but also recalling him many years later.) In short, which isn't as Bronish puts it, when Crown Prince Fritz is on the prowl for sugar daddies in the 1730s, Manteuffel really was a great candidate.
Uh huh. Anyway, this is really interesting, because when we first encountered Fritz showing all possible tendernesses to him circa 1736, Selena wondered if that meant sex. And my first response was, "Not to be ageist, but he is 60, and it is the 18th century, so he might not have had all that much sex appeal..." but clearly Formey is here to tell me otherwise!
Bronisch scoffs at Nicolai's anecdote as an explanation as to why Fritz called his own philosophical summer retreat the same name, pointing out that Manteuffel in a letter to Fritz even refers to his visitors as "his knights of Sanssouci" and that freaking FW visited for two days there in 1731, so there's no way Fritz was unaware of the precedent. To which I say, that doesn't mean he didn't mean the grave pun as well.
Bronisch, maybe he heard the name and it SPOKE TO HIM, because he had all these psychological issues, omg.
Guess what happened to the originals? WWII.
ARGH. This keeps happening to us!
Explanation for nickname: it's complicated.
I actually knew this, thanks to MacDonogh! But he doesn't give our sources for it, so that's a nice addition.
(Short version: it's a huge crowd, Augustus is about to fell a bad sentence which could have resulted with him gaining a tyrant's reputation, Maecenas raises a writing tablet with the words "surge, carnifex!", Augustus sees it and desists) (The who is who casting is obvious without Manteuffel spelling it out.)
A classical anecdote I didn't know, thank you! And yes, obvious parallelism is obvious.