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Every post I can't believe this is still going on, and yet, here we are :D
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Superbe: haven't seen her in the Kletschke account, but maybe Rödenbeck or Büsching have her? I'm still slowly rereading Nicolai.

Such manly, heterosexual tenderness! I am moved.

I know. Zimmmermann, we would not mock your gigantic crush if you didn't attempt to provide no homo historians with fodder for centuries with your tinhat theories.

BTW, he had his wife with him on that journey (not when meeting Fritz, of course), since his cover story was that he was visiting Berlin only to show her Potsdam. Why did he need a cover story? Because he wanted to be discreet and not signal to the rest of the world how ill Fritz had to be if he was summoning Dr. Zimmmermann. Unfortunately, says Zimmermann, SOMEONE gossipped in advance about his impending arrival nonetheless, and the poetess Anna Maria Karsch wrote a poem about him coming to the King's aid which got published in the Berlin papers, thus ruining his cover story.

He must have known Alcmene would be the last favorite he would outlive, and that's why she was in the vault with him.

And thus you have answered another question, Poirot! Also, awwww. Zimmermann does note there was a new dog sitting next to Fritz on a chair with blue cushions, but not whether she was called Superbe.

love is easy, love without abuse is harder. Many, maybe most, abusers can genuinely say they love their victims.

True, and FW is a case in point. I have no doubt he loved his children and his wife, and yearned to be loved by them. (And naturally he loved his Potsdam Giants! And the rest of the army, a little bit less but still. Doesn't mean they didn't get gruesome punishments for desertion.)

Oof, yes. That's forgettable in the extreme.

Isn't it? I do regret we haven't found yet Schöning encountering one of the better letter or diary writers.

Can if you imagine if The Other One Who Truly Understands had published at this time? The literary wars! The feuds!

Ha, this reminds me that in his anti Zimmermann book, Nicolali addresses Zimmermann saying - after the storm over his "Fragments" broke loose - that this was just anti Swiss xenophobia on the part of the Germam publishing industry. To which Nicolai says that firstly, Zimmermann used to be highly respected by him and the others before his last three books, as Zimmermann damm well knows, and secondly, none of them has ever said a harsh word about the equally Swiss Catt, did they? On the contrary, see all the positive references to Henri de Catt in his and Büschings collections since they talked with him, too. But you see, Z, CATT would never!

Henri de Catt, currently busy beefing up his memoirs: Okay, that does it. I'm only publishing once I'm dead.
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Many, maybe most, abusers can genuinely say they love their victims.

True, and FW is a case in point.


Yep, he was front and center in my mind when I wrote that. (A long with a lot of modern psychological literature on trauma.)

secondly, none of them has ever said a harsh word about the equally Swiss Catt, did they? On the contrary, see all the positive references to Henri de Catt in his and Büschings collections since they talked with him, too. But you see, Z, CATT would never!

Henri de Catt, currently busy beefing up his memoirs: Okay, that does it. I'm only publishing once I'm dead.


AHAHAHAAAAA, wow. I had noticed both Zimmermann and Catt were Swiss, but hadn't realized that aspect featured in the great feud. This is hilarious!

Man, if Catt *had* published during his lifetime, Nicolai would have eviscerated him a work that people might have read, because it was in the main text, rather than a preface that people like me always skip. ;)

Mind you, that hasn't stopped the Fritzian penis theory from spreading, sadly. (I know you told AP about his naked body being examined, but we were trusting Blanning at that point--does he know we now have more detail and it seems very reliable?)

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