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So for anyone who is reading this and would like to learn more about Frederick the Great and his contemporaries, but who doesn't want to wade through 500k (600k?) words worth of comments and an increasingly sprawling comment section:

We now have a community,

rheinsberg, that has quite a lot of the interesting historical content (and more coming regularly), organized nicely with lots of lovely tags so if there's any subject you are interested in it is easy to find :D

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From:

selenak

Oh, sure, fiction absolutely has to pick something! It's the job of fiction to tell a story. It's categorically asserting in nonfiction that such-and-such was the reason that I side-eye.

Same here! Hence my quick disillusionment with Burgdorf the GAY GAY GAY biographer.

that's when Natzmer gave Katte permission to leave Berlin and gave him a several hour head start

Presumably the same guy who spelled "Nazmer" is mentioned as a cavalier in Fritz' new household in Küstrin and who will write reports on him to the King? Or more likely a younger relation, if Natzmer the headstart giver was Katte's superior?

You mean pray for his soul after he's been beheaded?

Yes, that's how I understand Seckendorff's remark.

From:

mildred_of_midgard

Same here! Hence my quick disillusionment with Burgdorf the GAY GAY GAY biographer.

You mean in general he asserted unknowable things, or did he have a specific explanation for Katte's failure to avoid getting arrested?

Presumably the same guy who spelled "Nazmer" is mentioned as a cavalier in Fritz' new household in Küstrin and who will write reports on him to the King? Or more likely a younger relation, if Natzmer the headstart giver was Katte's superior?

Yes, Natzmer is a field marshal at this point, has better things to do than live with Fritz. ;) MacDonogh to the rescue: the Natzmer who arrested Katte and helped convert FW to Pietism (apparently a brand that wasn't incompatible with passive resistance to authority) is Dubislav Gneomar. Fritz's cavalier is Karl Dubislav, whom Wikipedia tells me is the son of the former.

From:

selenak

You mean in general he asserted unknowable things, or did he have a specific explanation for Katte's failure to avoid getting arrested?

The former, with the "never ever had Fritz the slightest sexual contact to a woman, he and Orzelska were platonic pen pals" and the "Wilhelmine wanted Katte for herself!" being the most glaring examples I recall.

Re: Natzmer(s) - thank you for detecting again! Incidentally, I do wonder how those assignments were pitched. "Surprise! You get to be cavalier to the Crown Prince! Could mean closeness to the future King, could also mean losing your head if you get too close, and did I mention, he's currently residing as a sort of prisoner in Küstrin? Off to the Polish border, and whatever you do, keep away from flutes of any kinds!"

From:

mildred_of_midgard

Hahaha. It's the kind of tightrope walking Heinrich would later thrive on, much to his annoyance.

whatever you do, keep away from flutes of any kinds!"

Lol. Did you say there were multiple "no flutes" letters?

FW: Look, guys. I know you're letting smuggled flutes in. I SAID, no flutes! No handsome flutists, either.
Hille: Easy for you to say. You're not the one who has to listen to the poetry!

You get to be cavalier to the Crown Prince!

I've been meaning to ask, what is the job description of a "cavalier" in this context? Because Peter Keith's son was one for about a week to Amalia (iirc), and I keep seeing it crop up here and there.