I see Knight Hotham belongs to the same google translate family as the Knight of Lorraine. *g* Lehndorff will refer to Sir Charles Hotham's nephew as "the Chevalier Hotham" as well. Lövenörn spelling it Guidickens, as one word, is a good reminder of what we didn't realize for the longest time, that it's not Guy Dickens, but Melchior Guy-Dickens.
Campe de Saxe - the Saxon Camp = Zeithain. cahn, where FW dragged Fritz in front of the Saxon and Prussian armies at his hair, and where Fritz and Katte approached Hoym (and it appears Lövenörn) with escape help pleas. Well, Fritz tried to; Katte in his interrogation claims he tried to foil this by not relaying messages. Otoh Hoym certainly received them, because it will be brought up by Brühl and others later at Hoym's own downfall.
We extremely admire the presence of mind that the Royal Prince showed before the commission, which had gone to find him in Mittenwalde, having had a most serious interview with Mr. de Gromkow at the same time as he was dictating, with the eloquence of a Cicero, to the Privy Councilor Mylius, who held the pen, what he had to write, without confusing himself in the slightest in the connection of things.
In other words, he didn't incriminate Danemark more than the absolute minimum wise and also, unlike Katte, didn't try to sell FW on Seckendorff & Grumbkow trying to make him into a Catholic to marry MT :)
Mildred: I have two things I don't recognize here: Fritz never spoke to Doris; Doris's parents were kicked out. I would have to check, but I feel like Hinrichs has Fritz or one of the other people who were interrogated admitting Fritz did interact with her directly? Maybe?
She definitely interacted directly with him, because Spaen was accused of, and admitting to, chaperoning her and Fritz on some strolls. She also played the piano (I think?) while Fritz played the flute. So Lövenörn is definitely exaggarating in one direction, downplaying in the other in the partisan spirit. Re: her parents, I'm not sure but maybe her Dad lost his job as cantor over this? But her parents definitely weren't banished from either Potsdam or Berlin.
Fritz getting half his hair torn out reminds me of Guy Dickens claiming he lives unshaven with a wild beard and long hair in Küstrin, i.e. it's not true at all but says something about the imagination of the respective envoy and belongs to the trope of the abused prisoner.
Sceleton!SD is similarly a rethorical exaggaration. Stratemann saw her repeatedly that autumn and mentions nothing about any significant weight loss. Granted, Stratemann also insists that Wilhelmine is "unwell" and that's why she's in her rooms all the time right until she accepts the marriage and is allowed out again which is when he mentions it wasn't all for health reasons, so he'd downplay any physical SD distress as much as the other two would play it up. But what's most likely is that SD was upset and distressed and what not, but any weight loss wasn't so much that many people noticed. Let's not forget: she gave birth to Ferdinand in the same year in late spring (May, I think?), and it's now early September. My mother took more than half a year to recover her waistline after the birth of my brother, and SD is living in far unhealthier times, and also doesn't appear to have been one for physical exercise like riding or walking, unlike, say, her grandmother Sophie of Hannover.
At any rate, it is SO COOL to be reading Løvenørn's unpublished letters and finding things like a second source for Doris Ritter being a virgin, a second source for Frau von Kamecke being the hero of the day, etc.!
That it definitely is! And all praise to you for ordering copies of those letters and translating them!
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Re: Løvenørn letters: Sep 10, 1730
Date: 2024-01-18 08:31 am (UTC)I see Knight Hotham belongs to the same google translate family as the Knight of Lorraine. *g* Lehndorff will refer to Sir Charles Hotham's nephew as "the Chevalier Hotham" as well. Lövenörn spelling it Guidickens, as one word, is a good reminder of what we didn't realize for the longest time, that it's not Guy Dickens, but Melchior Guy-Dickens.
Campe de Saxe - the Saxon Camp = Zeithain.
We extremely admire the presence of mind that the Royal Prince showed before the commission, which had gone to find him in Mittenwalde, having had a most serious interview with Mr. de Gromkow at the same time as he was dictating, with the eloquence of a Cicero, to the Privy Councilor Mylius, who held the pen, what he had to write, without confusing himself in the slightest in the connection of things.
In other words, he didn't incriminate Danemark more than the absolute minimum wise and also, unlike Katte, didn't try to sell FW on Seckendorff & Grumbkow trying to make him into a Catholic to marry MT :)
Mildred: I have two things I don't recognize here: Fritz never spoke to Doris; Doris's parents were kicked out. I would have to check, but I feel like Hinrichs has Fritz or one of the other people who were interrogated admitting Fritz did interact with her directly? Maybe?
She definitely interacted directly with him, because Spaen was accused of, and admitting to, chaperoning her and Fritz on some strolls. She also played the piano (I think?) while Fritz played the flute. So Lövenörn is definitely exaggarating in one direction, downplaying in the other in the partisan spirit. Re: her parents, I'm not sure but maybe her Dad lost his job as cantor over this? But her parents definitely weren't banished from either Potsdam or Berlin.
Fritz getting half his hair torn out reminds me of Guy Dickens claiming he lives unshaven with a wild beard and long hair in Küstrin, i.e. it's not true at all but says something about the imagination of the respective envoy and belongs to the trope of the abused prisoner.
Sceleton!SD is similarly a rethorical exaggaration. Stratemann saw her repeatedly that autumn and mentions nothing about any significant weight loss. Granted, Stratemann also insists that Wilhelmine is "unwell" and that's why she's in her rooms all the time right until she accepts the marriage and is allowed out again which is when he mentions it wasn't all for health reasons, so he'd downplay any physical SD distress as much as the other two would play it up. But what's most likely is that SD was upset and distressed and what not, but any weight loss wasn't so much that many people noticed. Let's not forget: she gave birth to Ferdinand in the same year in late spring (May, I think?), and it's now early September. My mother took more than half a year to recover her waistline after the birth of my brother, and SD is living in far unhealthier times, and also doesn't appear to have been one for physical exercise like riding or walking, unlike, say, her grandmother Sophie of Hannover.
At any rate, it is SO COOL to be reading Løvenørn's unpublished letters and finding things like a second source for Doris Ritter being a virgin, a second source for Frau von Kamecke being the hero of the day, etc.!
That it definitely is! And all praise to you for ordering copies of those letters and translating them!