Mildred: But the whole point of running away is not fulfilling your responsibilities?
Hatton: But he had given orders for everything to be ready for his arrival!
Mildred: Yes? If you don't behave like everything is normal, then you get caught even sooner? *cough* Fritz.
Or Peter Keith, who wrote to Not!Robert that they could be roomies once Robert arrived with FW and Fritz in Wesel, and also to bring some stuff for him from Berlin. Which presumably did a great deal to convince FW that Not!Robert didn't know about the conspiracy until Fritz told him he'd made a run for it en route.
Historians: G1 was totally at fault for the events of the night of K's disappearance!
Which historians, may I ask? Maybe I have a skewered perspective due to having started with Schnath who notably doesn't think that, but I can't remember G1 in particular being blamed by anyone else, including wiki. Horowski, for example, is clear on the fact that Team Hannover in general is to blame, but who among them specifically (Ernst August with or without Sophie, G1, or all together), I don't think he says. And popular legend, adapted by the Austrian novelist who wrote Sarabande for Dead Lovers, blames not G1 but his father's mistress the Countess von Platen, on the basis of a "woman scorned" motive that assumes she had an earlier affair with Königsmarck. (Whereas wiki thinks if she had a hate-on for Königsmarck, it probably due to him not wanting to marry her daughter, not because she wanted him for herself.) Does Hatton have any take on Platen's role in this? Personally, I can well believe the legend arose as a way not to blame the Hannovers themselves, but I would like to hear an argument one way or another.
But the legend that he caught SDC in flagrante and ran her lover through with a sword is right out.
Again, which legend is this? Maybe there are separate British and German legends? Because the one I know had Platen tell G1 about the affair, not some in flagrante confrontation. (The Australian novelist then upped this by letting Platen organize the murder itself as well.)
Historians: G1 wanted to divorce SDC.
Da capo: which historians? I never read any suggesting this. All the versions I know had her wanting to divorce him, and being bitterly disappointed her parents wouldn't support her in this. I'm really starting to suspect two separate historian traditions, depending on British historians never reading any German sources, I presume.
Historians: G1 kept her locked up forever!
Hatton: Her daughter, SD of Prussia, tried to negotiate for an amnesty in 1725, but SDC refused! She would only agree to leave her house arrest if her name was cleared, it was stated that she had never done anything wrong, and she received compensation for wrongs suffered. Forgiveness would mean acknowledging that she had done anything wrong.
Okay, this is genuinely new. And fascinating! Does Hatton have any explanation for SD not visiting SDC when she was in Hannover, if she was willing to negotiate for her?
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Re: Sophia Dorothea of Celle, the Hatton take
Date: 2021-11-20 03:20 pm (UTC)Hatton: But he had given orders for everything to be ready for his arrival!
Mildred: Yes? If you don't behave like everything is normal, then you get caught even sooner? *cough* Fritz.
Or Peter Keith, who wrote to Not!Robert that they could be roomies once Robert arrived with FW and Fritz in Wesel, and also to bring some stuff for him from Berlin. Which presumably did a great deal to convince FW that Not!Robert didn't know about the conspiracy until Fritz told him he'd made a run for it en route.
Historians: G1 was totally at fault for the events of the night of K's disappearance!
Which historians, may I ask? Maybe I have a skewered perspective due to having started with Schnath who notably doesn't think that, but I can't remember G1 in particular being blamed by anyone else, including wiki. Horowski, for example, is clear on the fact that Team Hannover in general is to blame, but who among them specifically (Ernst August with or without Sophie, G1, or all together), I don't think he says. And popular legend, adapted by the Austrian novelist who wrote Sarabande for Dead Lovers, blames not G1 but his father's mistress the Countess von Platen, on the basis of a "woman scorned" motive that assumes she had an earlier affair with Königsmarck. (Whereas wiki thinks if she had a hate-on for Königsmarck, it probably due to him not wanting to marry her daughter, not because she wanted him for herself.) Does Hatton have any take on Platen's role in this? Personally, I can well believe the legend arose as a way not to blame the Hannovers themselves, but I would like to hear an argument one way or another.
But the legend that he caught SDC in flagrante and ran her lover through with a sword is right out.
Again, which legend is this? Maybe there are separate British and German legends? Because the one I know had Platen tell G1 about the affair, not some in flagrante confrontation. (The Australian novelist then upped this by letting Platen organize the murder itself as well.)
Historians: G1 wanted to divorce SDC.
Da capo: which historians? I never read any suggesting this. All the versions I know had her wanting to divorce him, and being bitterly disappointed her parents wouldn't support her in this. I'm really starting to suspect two separate historian traditions, depending on British historians never reading any German sources, I presume.
Historians: G1 kept her locked up forever!
Hatton: Her daughter, SD of Prussia, tried to negotiate for an amnesty in 1725, but SDC refused! She would only agree to leave her house arrest if her name was cleared, it was stated that she had never done anything wrong, and she received compensation for wrongs suffered. Forgiveness would mean acknowledging that she had done anything wrong.
Okay, this is genuinely new. And fascinating! Does Hatton have any explanation for SD not visiting SDC when she was in Hannover, if she was willing to negotiate for her?