Hee! The necklace being ugly is one of the few things I didn't question, not because I knew what jewelry looked like back then (which... does seem like the kind of thing I should know, lol) but because I figured she would actually have seen a picture, whereas all the other stuff...
though maybe it’s worth pointing out that both Louis and MA were in fact guilty of the main charge in their trials, which wasn’t having been King and Queen but conspiring with foreign armies against France and furthering an overthrow of the government with the help of said foreign armies.
Yes, thank you for pointing that out! And to give her credit, I think although she glosses over it she doesn't ignore it entirely like some other things? And this feels like something I once knew -- that is to say, although I didn't remember it, I wasn't surprised by it, as opposed to the Neapolitan Revolution --
Speaking of things you pointed out, I am reeeeeally glad you talked about the Neapolitan Revolution in your comment because OH BOY is that NOT what I got from her book. Woooooow. And I knew absolutely nothing of all this beforehand (I actually know relatively little about Napoleon), so I didn't have any frame of reference for figuring out her biases. (I mean, I know they're always in the same direction, towards the subjets she likes and against the ones she's decided are the antagonists, but...)
Do you recommend Kate Williams' Emma biography? Because I was already primed to think she was interesting from what you'd told me before, and now I think she's even more interesting. What about The Volcano Lover, do you rec that?
He still ruined not just what remained of Joseph’s but all of his father’s works when he became Emperor and took Austria back behind even MT’s own reforms. For which he himself is to blame.
:(
We were often infuriated by him, but how much verve, life, enthusiasm and love for justice did he awaken in all of us!”
<3
(Amadeus doesn’t claim the opposite, btw. If it had been simply a matter of money, Salieri or van Swieten, both of whom are shown following the coffin up to a point, could have paid for a funeral. However, there wasn’t one available. If Salieri himself had died at this point, he would have been buried in the exact same manner.)
Lol, yeah, I realized Amadeus didn't claim it, but the movie didn't say anything about Joseph's reforms (I mean, not that it would have made any sense to!) and as an impressionable kid I made the connection between his financial troubles and getting poured into the mass grave. (Isn't a small bit from Salieri's dad's much-more-fancy funeral shown in the beginning too, or am I making that up? The scene where he died on-stage was super scary for me as a kid, so I never rewatch that bit.)
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Re: In the Shadow of the Empress: The rest.
Date: 2021-10-07 05:35 am (UTC)though maybe it’s worth pointing out that both Louis and MA were in fact guilty of the main charge in their trials, which wasn’t having been King and Queen but conspiring with foreign armies against France and furthering an overthrow of the government with the help of said foreign armies.
Yes, thank you for pointing that out! And to give her credit, I think although she glosses over it she doesn't ignore it entirely like some other things? And this feels like something I once knew -- that is to say, although I didn't remember it, I wasn't surprised by it, as opposed to the Neapolitan Revolution --
Speaking of things you pointed out, I am reeeeeally glad you talked about the Neapolitan Revolution in your comment because OH BOY is that NOT what I got from her book. Woooooow. And I knew absolutely nothing of all this beforehand (I actually know relatively little about Napoleon), so I didn't have any frame of reference for figuring out her biases. (I mean, I know they're always in the same direction, towards the subjets she likes and against the ones she's decided are the antagonists, but...)
Do you recommend Kate Williams' Emma biography? Because I was already primed to think she was interesting from what you'd told me before, and now I think she's even more interesting. What about The Volcano Lover, do you rec that?
He still ruined not just what remained of Joseph’s but all of his father’s works when he became Emperor and took Austria back behind even MT’s own reforms. For which he himself is to blame.
:(
We were often infuriated by him, but how much verve, life, enthusiasm and love for justice did he awaken in all of us!”
<3
(Amadeus doesn’t claim the opposite, btw. If it had been simply a matter of money, Salieri or van Swieten, both of whom are shown following the coffin up to a point, could have paid for a funeral. However, there wasn’t one available. If Salieri himself had died at this point, he would have been buried in the exact same manner.)
Lol, yeah, I realized Amadeus didn't claim it, but the movie didn't say anything about Joseph's reforms (I mean, not that it would have made any sense to!) and as an impressionable kid I made the connection between his financial troubles and getting poured into the mass grave. (Isn't a small bit from Salieri's dad's much-more-fancy funeral shown in the beginning too, or am I making that up? The scene where he died on-stage was super scary for me as a kid, so I never rewatch that bit.)