and knows his way around Georgian England; a bit less so in the rest of Europe
Reminds me of all the biographers of Prussians relying on Prussian sources (read: propaganda) for Russian politics, which I side-eye heavily. I'm not familiar with Russian sources, but at least I *know* that I'm not.
But it's just so very Anglosaxon to iimagine that every would regard becoming Queen of England as the best thing ever.
Indeed.
when when of Caroline's German ladies in waiting said to the new English ones that should held up their heads, stand straights and held out their breasts instead of looking downwards all the time, she got the disdainfull reply: We show our Quality by our Birth and Titles, Madam , and not by sticking out our Bosoms".
Hee!
("Brust raus, Bauch rein" was even said in my childhood. It's a thing! But not in England.)
Is it just for women, or equal opportunity? I.e. is it about showing off your cleavage, or about good posture?
Charles Hanbury Williams (future envoy and Fritz disliker) said that she was incapable of love; her ' total, real indifference to mankind has hindered her ever having a lover'.
Women: damned if they do, damned if they don't.
this includes showing Voltaire his poetry and asking his opinion of it. (I sense a theme.)
Lol! Downsides to being the most famous poet of your age.
And Fritz of Wales writes "'My Dear Hervey , I reciev'd Sunday evening your Letter from Salisbury, & am mighty sensible that fatigue at one Side, & pleasures, Balls , and fine Ladys at another side did not make you forget Orestes, the warm Orestes, to his Dear Pilades.'
So I notice Fritz of Wales goes with the more obvious casting of himself as Orestes and Hervey as Pylades, where as Fritz of Prussia goes with himself as Pylades and Suhm as Orestes.
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Re: Robert Halsband: Lord Hervey (I)
Date: 2020-09-12 04:50 pm (UTC)and knows his way around Georgian England; a bit less so in the rest of Europe
Reminds me of all the biographers of Prussians relying on Prussian sources (read: propaganda) for Russian politics, which I side-eye heavily. I'm not familiar with Russian sources, but at least I *know* that I'm not.
But it's just so very Anglosaxon to iimagine that every would regard becoming Queen of England as the best thing ever.
Indeed.
when when of Caroline's German ladies in waiting said to the new English ones that should held up their heads, stand straights and held out their breasts instead of looking downwards all the time, she got the disdainfull reply: We show our Quality by our Birth and Titles, Madam , and not by sticking out our Bosoms".
Hee!
("Brust raus, Bauch rein" was even said in my childhood. It's a thing! But not in England.)
Is it just for women, or equal opportunity? I.e. is it about showing off your cleavage, or about good posture?
Charles Hanbury Williams (future envoy and Fritz disliker) said that she was incapable of love; her ' total, real indifference to mankind has hindered her ever having a lover'.
Women: damned if they do, damned if they don't.
this includes showing Voltaire his poetry and asking his opinion of it. (I sense a theme.)
Lol! Downsides to being the most famous poet of your age.
And Fritz of Wales writes "'My Dear Hervey , I reciev'd Sunday evening your Letter from Salisbury, & am mighty sensible that fatigue at one Side, & pleasures, Balls , and fine Ladys at another side did not make you forget Orestes, the warm Orestes, to his Dear Pilades.'
So I notice Fritz of Wales goes with the more obvious casting of himself as Orestes and Hervey as Pylades, where as Fritz of Prussia goes with himself as Pylades and Suhm as Orestes.