Ah, but wouldn't it make sense for an unmarried young woman to live with her brother and his wife instead of in the palace? Especially if the King has started to make unwanted eyes at her?
Maybe, but was that a thing? I rather thought ladies-in-waiting lived in the palace, particularly if the Queen needed something at night. Though I guess you don't need the *whole* array of ladies for that... Also, I would think not having to pay rent in expensive Berlin (or at least it was expensive ten years later) would be a major perk of working at the palace.
Related: I remembered you saying recently that *Volz* says that FW-puncher was the mother of Sophie von Voss, but looking at the Volz passage in question, I don't see where he talks about the punching. Admittedly, my ability to read German in any font is still limited, never mind that font. But rereading your report, it's possible you meant that Volz and you both independently noticed that the editor sucks at details, and the bit about FW puncher being the mother of Sophie was your own example? (He sucks either way.)
Did Volz say it was her mother, or was that, as I now think, you?
the "Frau von Pannewitz" which Wilhelmine mentions as the FW puncher
I had (only after running across Sophie's memoirs while betaing for "Survived") looked at the French and noticed it was "la demoiselle de Pannewitz," but because she was a lady in waiting, I was willing to accept that maybe she was married, or Wilhelmine had misremembered her age at the time of the punching.
The English just says "young lady," which could go either way for someone who was 30, especially being written about ten years later by someone who wasn't there and might have remembered her as being young, before she moved to Bayreuth. (My brothers are forever 3 and 10 in my head, the age at which I went to college and stopped seeing them regularly.)
But now that I have the German in my possession, I see that it is indeed "Fräulein von Pannewitz," not "Frau."
My fic has been updated, and I'm now struggling with my mental Rolodex. :P (Notice how long it took to update all mental database entries referring to Katte's stepmother's death!)
Otoh: Lucchessini!
For personal confidences, yes; for political/administrative delegation?
as opposed to several of the other readers managed not to either make enemies or end things badly with Fritz
Hmm. I think it goes:
Jordan: died in 1745 on good terms with Fritz. Darget: 1746 - ~1752, apparently unhappy about starring in the satirical porn, according to a doctored letter from Voltaire to Madame Denis, but possibly also supported by a poem from Fritz to Darget saying, in essence, "I know it's not always easy working for me." "Le roi m'a dit" de Prades: 1753 - 1757, imprisoned briefly for espionage. L'autre "le roi m'a dit" Catt: 1758 - 1782, dismissed for financial irregularities. Lucchesini: 1780?-1786, lasted out Fritz's lifetime on good terms.
So yeah, it had been a while since a reader managed that!
Something else worth pointing out is that Fritz was more the norm than the exception when it comes to being a powerful man emotionally unable to encourage and train a successor in time.
True, and even in the corporate world, you get leaders who would rather shine than allow anyone else to shine. Again, it's the zero-sum approach.
Well, you can actually make more profit if your peasants don't drop like flies but are in good physical shape and have reason to think you're a good boss. I'd like to point to one Voltaire here, who managed to turn Ferney into a model estate (which also included school for all the children) and profitted handsomely from it.
Very true. What I'm wondering is not so much how well he treats them, but how much does he protest, either publicly or privately, against the existence of feudalism when he lives in France and isn't a monarch but a feudal landholder?
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Date: 2020-09-01 07:52 pm (UTC)Maybe, but was that a thing? I rather thought ladies-in-waiting lived in the palace, particularly if the Queen needed something at night. Though I guess you don't need the *whole* array of ladies for that... Also, I would think not having to pay rent in expensive Berlin (or at least it was expensive ten years later) would be a major perk of working at the palace.
Related: I remembered you saying recently that *Volz* says that FW-puncher was the mother of Sophie von Voss, but looking at the Volz passage in question, I don't see where he talks about the punching. Admittedly, my ability to read German in any font is still limited, never mind that font. But rereading your report, it's possible you meant that Volz and you both independently noticed that the editor sucks at details, and the bit about FW puncher being the mother of Sophie was your own example? (He sucks either way.)
Did Volz say it was her mother, or was that, as I now think, you?
the "Frau von Pannewitz" which Wilhelmine mentions as the FW puncher
I had (only after running across Sophie's memoirs while betaing for "Survived") looked at the French and noticed it was "la demoiselle de Pannewitz," but because she was a lady in waiting, I was willing to accept that maybe she was married, or Wilhelmine had misremembered her age at the time of the punching.
The English just says "young lady," which could go either way for someone who was 30, especially being written about ten years later by someone who wasn't there and might have remembered her as being young, before she moved to Bayreuth. (My brothers are forever 3 and 10 in my head, the age at which I went to college and stopped seeing them regularly.)
But now that I have the German in my possession, I see that it is indeed "Fräulein von Pannewitz," not "Frau."
My fic has been updated, and I'm now struggling with my mental Rolodex. :P (Notice how long it took to update all mental database entries referring to Katte's stepmother's death!)
Otoh: Lucchessini!
For personal confidences, yes; for political/administrative delegation?
as opposed to several of the other readers managed not to either make enemies or end things badly with Fritz
Hmm. I think it goes:
Jordan: died in 1745 on good terms with Fritz.
Darget: 1746 - ~1752, apparently unhappy about starring in the satirical porn, according to a doctored letter from Voltaire to Madame Denis, but possibly also supported by a poem from Fritz to Darget saying, in essence, "I know it's not always easy working for me."
"Le roi m'a dit" de Prades: 1753 - 1757, imprisoned briefly for espionage.
L'autre "le roi m'a dit" Catt: 1758 - 1782, dismissed for financial irregularities.
Lucchesini: 1780?-1786, lasted out Fritz's lifetime on good terms.
So yeah, it had been a while since a reader managed that!
Something else worth pointing out is that Fritz was more the norm than the exception when it comes to being a powerful man emotionally unable to encourage and train a successor in time.
True, and even in the corporate world, you get leaders who would rather shine than allow anyone else to shine. Again, it's the zero-sum approach.
Well, you can actually make more profit if your peasants don't drop like flies but are in good physical shape and have reason to think you're a good boss. I'd like to point to one Voltaire here, who managed to turn Ferney into a model estate (which also included school for all the children) and profitted handsomely from it.
Very true. What I'm wondering is not so much how well he treats them, but how much does he protest, either publicly or privately, against the existence of feudalism when he lives in France and isn't a monarch but a feudal landholder?