Conflating the brothers in a movie makes perfect sense.
Nicknames and titles: agreed, I was more wondering about the specific case of teenage Peter and Robert, since Fritz has to talk a lot about them in escape attempt fanfics. I suppose in 1730, Peter's a lieutenant and Robert's not, which helps. But still. "Keith (Robert)" and "Lieutenant Keith (Peter)"? "Keith (Peter)" and "Keith's brother (Robert)"?
The drunk scene in Der Thronfolger is visceral to watch, like watching a public breakdown. Which it was, of course.
It's visceral even to read about, which is why 1) I didn't watch it, 2) if I ever do Yuletide and request fic, my letter as drafted contains a request not to depict this scene (referring to it, h/c the next morning, etc. is fine).
As far as I know, Fritz was consistent for the rest of his life about never getting drunk again.
Totally facetious note on Der Thronfolger: I watched the execution scene, because of course I did, and I've now seen three depictions of it on the screen, and of all of them, the only one where the director decides to go with the historically accurate aspect of Katte taking off his shirt is the one where the actor has Those Pecs \o/. Artistic decisions, lol.
FW yells "But I don't want you" - he uses the German plural now, meaning he's adressing not SD or just F & W but them all - to fear me, I want you to love me!"
Oh, lol, I think that might be based on this anecdote!
"Apart from being mean and short-tempered, Frederick William was for ever wielding his stick or crutch or dismissing a courtier or subject with a few well-aimed kicks. He had mixed views about the Jews, who settled in increasing numbers in Berlin in the course of his reign. He none the less believed that the state behaved justly towards them and felt that they should acknowledge his generosity in their turn. When one cowered in his presence, Frederick William set about him with his cane, shouting, 'You should love me!, not fear me. Love me!'"
Me when I first read that: *stares*
The layers here - both to the accusation itself and Fritz' subconscious having Wilhelmine, who in rl sided with him, making it, thus siding with FW - are obvious.)
God, yes. Every time Fritz's subconscious makes an appearance: the drinking episode, this dream about FW, the other dream about FW...it's just so painful.
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Re: Alternate universes where everyone is at least incrementally more happy
Date: 2019-10-29 07:05 pm (UTC)Nicknames and titles: agreed, I was more wondering about the specific case of teenage Peter and Robert, since Fritz has to talk a lot about them in escape attempt fanfics. I suppose in 1730, Peter's a lieutenant and Robert's not, which helps. But still. "Keith (Robert)" and "Lieutenant Keith (Peter)"? "Keith (Peter)" and "Keith's brother (Robert)"?
The drunk scene in Der Thronfolger is visceral to watch, like watching a public breakdown. Which it was, of course.
It's visceral even to read about, which is why 1) I didn't watch it, 2) if I ever do Yuletide and request fic, my letter as drafted contains a request not to depict this scene (referring to it, h/c the next morning, etc. is fine).
As far as I know, Fritz was consistent for the rest of his life about never getting drunk again.
Totally facetious note on Der Thronfolger: I watched the execution scene, because of course I did, and I've now seen three depictions of it on the screen, and of all of them, the only one where the director decides to go with the historically accurate aspect of Katte taking off his shirt is the one where the actor has Those Pecs \o/. Artistic decisions, lol.
FW yells "But I don't want you" - he uses the German plural now, meaning he's adressing not SD or just F & W but them all - to fear me, I want you to love me!"
Oh, lol, I think that might be based on this anecdote!
"Apart from being mean and short-tempered, Frederick William was for ever wielding his stick or crutch or dismissing a courtier or subject with a few well-aimed kicks. He had mixed views about the Jews, who settled in increasing numbers in Berlin in the course of his reign. He none the less believed that the state behaved justly towards them and felt that they should acknowledge his generosity in their turn. When one cowered in his presence, Frederick William set about him with his cane, shouting, 'You should love me!, not fear me. Love me!'"
Me when I first read that: *stares*
The layers here - both to the accusation itself and Fritz' subconscious having Wilhelmine, who in rl sided with him, making it, thus siding with FW - are obvious.)
God, yes. Every time Fritz's subconscious makes an appearance: the drinking episode, this dream about FW, the other dream about FW...it's just so painful.