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Re: Des Champs I: I'm Innocent! Everyone else was guilty. Except Le Diable.

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-06-05 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, as we know from Nicolai, a lot of storytelling people seem to place Katte in Wesel together with Peter and Fritz when arrested, until the publications start in earnest with Fritz' death.

Exactly: this is part of the "lectio difficilior" principle that I wrote to Buwert about as evidence in favor of Fritz and Fredersdorf meeting at Frankfurt: nobody would make that up, whereas it's very easy to remember Fritz was at Küstrin and that Fredersdorf met him at that time in his life, ergo Fredersdorf was stationed in Küstrin. He liked this argument and said it made sense.

I think anyone who knows anything about FW would know that. (Which means Uta J-K can't.)

Oh, BURN. :P

No Potsdam Giants freebies, and certainly not for Wretched Son.

And certainly not for Wretched Son in 1731, of all times! Reconciliation or not.

Or would be, if not for the fact that Balducci, which the introduction doesn't mention but I saw when looking it up in the main text, hadn't named his automata his metal "nègres". ....

Oh, dear. I was going to ask: hopefully the 1990 introduction at least isn't on board with the anti-Semitism? (Please?)

But, as you say, it's interesting that this variation of the story (i.e. Fredersdorf could have gotten enobled by Fritz but declined and was content with the land) is making the rounds as well.

Consistent with "Pulvis et Umbra" too, I might point out! I was hedging my bets since I knew we had multiple accounts of whether Fredersdorf was ennobled or not, and I wrote, "commoner though he was (and remarkably uninterested in becoming anything else)."
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Re: Des Champs I: I'm Innocent! Everyone else was guilty. Except Le Diable.

[personal profile] selenak 2021-06-05 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The antisemitism was in the book about the Pages, not in Des Champs' memoirs (at least not that the introduction mentioned or I spotted). considering the introduction tells the automata story witout mentioning what their inventor called them, methinks it's aware of the problem there.

Presents for Wretched Son in 1731 as per canon: can attend his sister's wedding party in December. Gets his sword back. Also the house in Küstrin where Fritz lives once he's not occupying Münchow's rooms anymore, I guess, at least on a "rented for" basis, but that's it. (BTW, thanks to Stratemann, we do know what FW gave the other kids on this and other Christmasses. And while some of those presents were extravagant - fireworks for little AW, piglets (if Felis right re: "Fröschlinge") set loose in the palace - a Potsdam Giant was never among them. :)

Re: ennoblement - like I said elsewhere, since the former Mrs. Fredersdorf when remarrying is listed as Mrs. Fredersdorf and not "von" Fredersdorf, and she ought to know, I was always reasonably sure he didn't get ennobled.
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Re: Des Champs I: I'm Innocent! Everyone else was guilty. Except Le Diable.

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-06-05 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The antisemitism was in the book about the Pages, not in Des Champs' memoirs

Right, right, right, getting confused in my memory. *facepalm*

methinks it's aware of the problem there.

Well, that's something.

And while some of those presents were extravagant - fireworks for little AW, piglets (if Felis right re: "Fröschlinge") set loose in the palace - a Potsdam Giant was never among them. :)

Hee! Indeed not.

Re: ennoblement - like I said elsewhere, since the former Mrs. Fredersdorf when remarrying is listed as Mrs. Fredersdorf and not "von" Fredersdorf, and she ought to know, I was always reasonably sure he didn't get ennobled.

A convincing argument, but I did not know that when writing "Pulvis et Umbra", only one month into salon. ;)