A couple of vids for you, all English subtitled scenes from the Spanish series Carlos Rey Emperador and its predecessor, Isabel.
Juana meets her grown up children: Teenage Charles (the not yet V) and his oldest sister Eleanor meet their mother Juana (and youngest sister Catherine) for the first time since early, early childhood, in the first episode of the series
And a correspondending scene from near the end, when Charles abdicates (and splits the Empire and the Habsburg line) in order to retire into a monastary (so he can save his grandson in one of the endings of the Verdi opera *g*. Juana is mentioned in this scene, not least because it takes place not too long after her death (she lived to be this old) and Charles chooses to abdicate in Flanders, where he was born and grew up. Also present: young not yet Philip II (and Austrian Habsburg cousins, the kids of Charles' younger brother Ferdinand): Abdication scene
Scene from shortly thereafter, in which Philip the now II, who has just married Mary Tudor which he hadn't been too keen on, is NOT happy about not becoming Emperor, but makes up with Dad when Charles explains some more: The burden of Empire
And now let me introduce you to an awesome woman also in play in this saga, briefly mentioned before, Margaret of Austria, daughter of Maximilian and Mary, sister of Philip le Bel, and by far the most sympathetic Habsburg of her generation.
Because child marriages are a thing, toddler Margaret, the same year Mary of Burgundy dies tragically, gets betrothed to Charles the son of Louis the Spider King of France in order to achieve France/Burgundy/HRE peace. The French insist she grows up with them so she'll become a proper French Queen. Margaret accordingly spends much of her childhood and youth in France only for Charles to marry Anne of Brittany instead (the French still don't let her go back to her father until two years after the marriage.
Margaret: *not a cheerleader of the House of Valois thereafter*
Max(imilian): Chin up! I've just arranged a double marriage. You get the only son of Ferdinand and Isabella, Juan, and your brother Philip le Bel gets his sister Juana. That way, Habsburgs will sit on the Spanish thrones for sure. Unlike certain events taking place centuries after our life time, MY double brother/sister marriages work.
Margaret: sets sail for Spain
Mighty storm: happens.
Margaret: composes her epitath just in case: "Here lies Margaret, the willing bride, Twice married - but a virgin when she died."
Margaret: doesn*t die, marries Juan. Juan, however, dies only six MONTHS into the marriage (which will make his sister Juana the next heir of Castile). Margaret is pregnant by then, but has a stillbirth. This means it's back to Burgundy with her.
Max: Given my on/off feuding with France, and Savoy being strategically placed, clearly Margaret should marry the Duke of Savoy next.
Margaret: *becomes Mrs. Savoy; three years later, her husband dies*
Margaret: I've had it! Legend has it I'm throwing myself out of a window of grief, which I survive. This may or may not have been the case, but I do keep his heart with me for my remaining very long life. Note no one is declaring me insane fo r eihter action. As it turns out, the positive part of my life is finally beginning, since I refuse to marry a third time. No more marriages, say I.
Max: ...okay. Since your brother Philip just died, how about I appoint you governor of Flanders and guardian of his older kids instead?
Margaret: Accepted.
Margaret: *is so successful as governor of the Netherlands that Charles, once he's grown up, reappoints her indefinitely until her death*
Margaret: *also starts to become first her father's and then her nephew's chief representative in tricky negotiations; she ends up being called the greatest diplomat of her era*
Treaties and events negotiated by Margaret: Maximilian/Louis treaty in 1508 anti-France alliance between Max and young Henry VIII, 1513 election of Charles as HRE (backed with Fugger money, but Margaret was doing the actual negotiating with the Princes Elector and the Papacy, which was just a biiiiiit worried about the prospect of a Habsburg ruling Spain and the HRE at the same time (not unjustifiedly so, ask a later Pope driven from Rome by Charles) in 1519 Charles/Francis treaty in 1529
Margaret was also a great patron of the arts, and her Netherlands court was supposedly the most cultivated of Europe, which is why one Thomas Boleyn, English diplomat, sent his child daughter Anne there (before she ended up at the French court). Thus one of the earliest mentions of Anne Boleyn is by Margaret in a letter to Thomas, stating the little girl was "so presentable and so pleasant, considering her youthful age, that I am more beholden to you for sending her to me, than you to me."
She died in 1530 according to the best known version by gangrene in her foot that developed after she stepped into a shard of glass, and may or may not have drunk too much of an opiate to dull her pain. By this time, the was the Matriarch of the family and the realms, having raised several of their monarchs. In addition to Charles, there was Eleanor (Queen of Portugal, later Queen of France, which was part of the Charles/Francis peace deal), Isabella (Queen of Norway and Denmark), and Mary (Queen of Bohemia and Hungary, also Margaret's successor as governess of the Netherlands and like her trying to keep the peace between Charles and brother Ferdinand. Whom Margaret had not raised. Ferdinand, ironically enough, had been raised in Spain, though not by Juana, but at the court of the grandfather he was named after. (Ironically enough because Ferdinand, who grew up in Spain, and did want the Spanish crown(s), never ruled Spain - remember, he got the HRE eventually - whereas Charles, who'd grown up in Flanders and was a stranger when he came to Spain for the first time, did end up ruling it.)
Margaret vid, showing her both as a young and older woman and the voice of sanity for two generations
And a scene from the series the footage is from again:
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Juana meets her grown up children: Teenage Charles (the not yet V) and his oldest sister Eleanor meet their mother Juana (and youngest sister Catherine) for the first time since early, early childhood, in the first episode of the series
And a correspondending scene from near the end, when Charles abdicates (and splits the Empire and the Habsburg line) in order to retire into a monastary (so he can save his grandson in one of the endings of the Verdi opera *g*. Juana is mentioned in this scene, not least because it takes place not too long after her death (she lived to be this old) and Charles chooses to abdicate in Flanders, where he was born and grew up. Also present: young not yet Philip II (and Austrian Habsburg cousins, the kids of Charles' younger brother Ferdinand): Abdication scene
Scene from shortly thereafter, in which Philip the now II, who has just married Mary Tudor which he hadn't been too keen on, is NOT happy about not becoming Emperor, but makes up with Dad when Charles explains some more: The burden of Empire
And now let me introduce you to an awesome woman also in play in this saga, briefly mentioned before, Margaret of Austria, daughter of Maximilian and Mary, sister of Philip le Bel, and by far the most sympathetic Habsburg of her generation.
Because child marriages are a thing, toddler Margaret, the same year Mary of Burgundy dies tragically, gets betrothed to Charles the son of Louis the Spider King of France in order to achieve France/Burgundy/HRE peace. The French insist she grows up with them so she'll become a proper French Queen. Margaret accordingly spends much of her childhood and youth in France only for Charles to marry Anne of Brittany instead (the French still don't let her go back to her father until two years after the marriage.
Margaret: *not a cheerleader of the House of Valois thereafter*
Max(imilian): Chin up! I've just arranged a double marriage. You get the only son of Ferdinand and Isabella, Juan, and your brother Philip le Bel gets his sister Juana. That way, Habsburgs will sit on the Spanish thrones for sure. Unlike certain events taking place centuries after our life time, MY double brother/sister marriages work.
Margaret: sets sail for Spain
Mighty storm: happens.
Margaret: composes her epitath just in case: "Here lies Margaret, the willing bride,
Twice married - but a virgin when she died."
Margaret: doesn*t die, marries Juan. Juan, however, dies only six MONTHS into the marriage (which will make his sister Juana the next heir of Castile). Margaret is pregnant by then, but has a stillbirth. This means it's back to Burgundy with her.
Max: Given my on/off feuding with France, and Savoy being strategically placed, clearly Margaret should marry the Duke of Savoy next.
Margaret: *becomes Mrs. Savoy; three years later, her husband dies*
Margaret: I've had it! Legend has it I'm throwing myself out of a window of grief, which I survive. This may or may not have been the case, but I do keep his heart with me for my remaining very long life. Note no one is declaring me insane fo r eihter action. As it turns out, the positive part of my life is finally beginning, since I refuse to marry a third time. No more marriages, say I.
Max: ...okay. Since your brother Philip just died, how about I appoint you governor of Flanders and guardian of his older kids instead?
Margaret: Accepted.
Margaret: *is so successful as governor of the Netherlands that Charles, once he's grown up, reappoints her indefinitely until her death*
Margaret: *also starts to become first her father's and then her nephew's chief representative in tricky negotiations; she ends up being called the greatest diplomat of her era*
Treaties and events negotiated by Margaret: Maximilian/Louis treaty in 1508
anti-France alliance between Max and young Henry VIII, 1513
election of Charles as HRE (backed with Fugger money, but Margaret was doing the actual negotiating with the Princes Elector and the Papacy, which was just a biiiiiit worried about the prospect of a Habsburg ruling Spain and the HRE at the same time (not unjustifiedly so, ask a later Pope driven from Rome by Charles) in 1519
Charles/Francis treaty in 1529
Margaret was also a great patron of the arts, and her Netherlands court was supposedly the most cultivated of Europe, which is why one Thomas Boleyn, English diplomat, sent his child daughter Anne there (before she ended up at the French court). Thus one of the earliest mentions of Anne Boleyn is by Margaret in a letter to Thomas, stating the little girl was "so presentable and so pleasant, considering her youthful age, that I am more beholden to you for sending her to me, than you to me."
She died in 1530 according to the best known version by gangrene in her foot that developed after she stepped into a shard of glass, and may or may not have drunk too much of an opiate to dull her pain. By this time, the was the Matriarch of the family and the realms, having raised several of their monarchs. In addition to Charles, there was Eleanor (Queen of Portugal, later Queen of France, which was part of the Charles/Francis peace deal), Isabella (Queen of Norway and Denmark), and Mary (Queen of Bohemia and Hungary, also Margaret's successor as governess of the Netherlands and like her trying to keep the peace between Charles and brother Ferdinand. Whom Margaret had not raised. Ferdinand, ironically enough, had been raised in Spain, though not by Juana, but at the court of the grandfather he was named after. (Ironically enough because Ferdinand, who grew up in Spain, and did want the Spanish crown(s), never ruled Spain - remember, he got the HRE eventually - whereas Charles, who'd grown up in Flanders and was a stranger when he came to Spain for the first time, did end up ruling it.)
Margaret vid, showing her both as a young and older woman and the voice of sanity for two generations
And a scene from the series the footage is from again:
Margaret and brother Philip le Bel fight about Juana; she tries to make him treat her better.
Re: Spanish Sidenotes