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cahn ([personal profile] cahn) wrote2021-02-20 09:19 pm
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Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 24

Every post I can't believe this is still going on, and yet, here we are :D
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Re: Die Preußische Heirat, or Hohenzollern: The RomCom

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-03-01 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
*goggles*

*boggles*

I have SO MANY questions!

But the most important one is LEOPOLD WHO??

[personal profile] cahn, Leopold was the name of MT's dad's dad, who was emperor in the latter half of the 17th century (d. 1705). His two sons were Joseph and Charles (MT's dad). Joseph and Charles had only daughters (hence the War of the Austrian Succession).

Oh, Wikipedia tells me he had a son named Archduke Leopold, WHO DIED IN INFANCY IN 1684. (Oh, and each of Joseph and Charles had one Leopold, WHO DIED IN INFANCY.)

I don't even have time to touch the rest of the mind-boggling decisions. But thank you for allowing us to enjoy them! That was quite...something.
Edited 2021-03-01 20:56 (UTC)
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Re: Die Preußische Heirat, or Hohenzollern: The RomCom

[personal profile] selenak 2021-03-02 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't it just? I would love to do screenshots as well, not least because Hotham, probably to signal he's the most sophisticated character, actually wears a big black Haarbeutel. But alas it's on Amazon Prime and nowhere else, and my attempts to take pics result in copyright protecting black screen again.

LEOPOLD WHO???? was my reaction as well. I mean, there's so much other stuff. But even a mid 19th century audience, for which this was originally written, must have been aware that if there'd been an Archduke Leopold around in 1731 for Wilhelmine to potentially marry, European history would have been different. (OTOH a 1970s West German tv audience could be relied upon to have forgotten that the non existence of a male archduke was kind of a key issue.)

A bit more seriously: of course, now I wonder. FW would never have allowed his sons to convert, save for my one AU. But his by default less important daughters? If one of them gets to be Empress Consort? On the one hand, it was common enough practice for Protestant princesses if a match to a superior in rank and power beckoned - see Liselotte and MT's mother both starting out as Protestant princesses and converting in order to marry Catholic princes. And FW's own mother would have been cool with converting if old Louis XIV had married her. On the other hand: FW was the outlier among 18th century Kings. So, what do you think?

ETA: Found three pictures from the film online; sadly, none show Hotham and his Haarbeutel. Here's Carl Raddatz as FW:

https://www.filmmuseum-potsdam.de/media/de/28139_42730_Kopf_PreussischeHeirat.jpg

Sonsine and Wilhelmine:

https://www.pidax-film.de/images/product_images/popup_images/1869_3.jpg

All the Potsdam Giants tv budget can afford:
https://www.pidax-film.de/images/product_images/popup_images/1869_1.jpg
Edited 2021-03-02 18:43 (UTC)
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Re: Die Preußische Heirat, or Hohenzollern: The RomCom

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2021-03-03 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
LEOPOLD WHO???? was my reaction as well.

I know, I was echoing you! I thought it was funny because, yeah, there *is* so much else going on...and yet.

On the other hand: FW was the outlier among 18th century Kings. So, what do you think?

Only if he gets Jülich and Berg. More seriously, I just don't know. It could go either way. At the very least, I bet he drags his feet on it.

OTOH, our Scheming Duo might be able to pull it off, who knows.

All the Potsdam Giants tv budget can afford

AHAHAHAHAAAAAA, I laughed so much. That's one low budget! That's...20 of them?

Thank you for sharing the hilarity. :D