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cahn ([personal profile] cahn) wrote2023-04-16 05:20 pm
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Historical Characters, Including Frederick the Great, Discussion Post 43

Still going! Still clearing Fritz's valet/chamberlain Fredersdorf's name from the calumny enshrined in wikipedia that he was dismissed for financial irregularities!
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Re: Leining to Fredersdorf: Letter 14, pages 1-2 - Translaation

[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2023-05-11 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Translation and guesswork notes:

"EXX = Excess"

Looking at it with fresh eyes (you would be surprised how much that can help!), it's clearly "Ekel". So "züm Ekel" I might translate as "disgustingly".

Bittere Streiche XXXXt = Bittere Streiche versetzt

Haha, I really just gave up on that word, didn't I?

...

*several minutes later*

"Prophezeyet"!

Wow, I did not realize that was how he made lowercase "p" at the beginning of a word. It looks nothing like the second "p" there, or any other "p" I've seen from him.

That one was not fresh eyes; that was a lot of determination to arrive at "Xrrphezeyet", with a mental note that one or the other "r" could be an "o", then pasting "irrphezeyet" into Google translate in hopes of getting suggestions for similar words, and getting "Did you mean: prophezeit" back. Prompting Google to give me similar words is a last-resort trick I have up my sleeve. It works about half the time.

Also, Cahn, the thugs presumably are the famous pandurs, who mostly hailed from MT’s Balkan subjects - Hungarian but also Serbs, Croats etc.

That's why on one of those words Felis and I can't figure out, the people/animals passing through that Fritz wishes they could get for Ruppin, the word that might start with "K" but isn't Kerle, I tried to make it some variant of "Kroat" before giving up on that too. (I mean, it's not *likely* Fritz wants Kroats for his regiment back home, but I was prepared to be surprised.)

which I can’t believe has slumbered in the archive not even read by Koser the super discoverer of documents before Mildred found and transcribed it!

Aww. I can't take credit for finding it; the box bill project people found it. I didn't even find *that*--[personal profile] gambitten did and pointed us to it. But I will take credit for the initiative and determination involved in tracking it down and learning Kurrent well enough to (approximately) transcribe it.

I do think we're the first to read it in a human interest context, instead of a bureaucratic context. And I keep finding people, like Krannich, who really would have benefitted from reading this in a human interest context! The Trachenberg stuff is relevant to her subject!

There's *so* much going on here, with the Fritz/Fredersdorf and Glasow and Benda and Anderson and the Trachenbergs, and of course Leining/Mrs. Leining/the Fredersdorfs, and so forth, that I keep having wild fantasies of publishing the whole thing with commentary (including why Fredersdorf wasn't dismissed but Pfeiffer was, etc.). But I would have to get an order of magnitude better at transcribing, and even then it would be a lot of work, so...we'll see. If nothing else, I should be able to get an essay on embezzlement. The reach of my academic publication ambitions always exceeds my grasp.

ETA: But not the Groeben letters. I am not volunteering for publication-worthy transcription *or* commentary on those. :P

Leining first not wanting to worry Fredersdorf as he didn’t have good news to report but then reconsidering because no news will leave Fredersdorf (who of course will be worrying about Fritz & co.) at the mercy of panicked rumors is very human.

Yes, very. And it's the flip side of "Fritz needs the updates on your health, even if you've been avoiding telling us because the news is bad." :(
Edited 2023-05-11 01:06 (UTC)